Carried in DC for the 1st Time today

Klunatic · Jan 22, 2018

I carried for the 1st time today since obtaining my permit in DC. I have got to admit it felt weird crossing the line into DC and not having to be disarmed. It was surreal that I could walk down the street and not worry about having a empty shell casing or god forbid a loaded round in my pocket/bag.

Deep Thought · Jan 22, 2018

Klunatic said:
I carried for the 1st time today since obtaining my permit in DC. I have got to admit it felt weird crossing the line into DC and not having to be disarmed. It was surreal that I could walk down the street and not worry about having a empty shell casing or god forbid a loaded round in my pocket/bag.

As long as it matches the caliber of one of your registered firearms, so I've heard. Sigh. Congrats tho!

swinokur · Jan 22, 2018

That portion of the law was changed. If you have a permit, any caliber ammo is legal.

Oh BTW Klunatic

Congrats.

teratos · Jan 22, 2018

Did your gun try to kill any bunnies or puppies?

Deep Thought · Jan 22, 2018

swinokur said:
That portion of the law as change, . If you have a permit, any caliber ammo is legal.

Oh BTW Klunatic

Congrats.

Good to know, thanks for the clarification/update.. Congrats again Klunatic!

Klunatic · Jan 22, 2018

teratos said:
Did your gun try to kill any bunnies or puppies?

No surprisingly, it didn't jump out of my holster and spray all (10 rounds) at the innocents around me. :rolleyes:

teratos · Jan 22, 2018

Klunatic said:
No surprisingly, it didn't jump out of my holster and spray all (10 rounds) at the innocents around me.

Moms Demand Action are collectively shocked. Congrats on the DC permit. I never would have believed it.

fscwi · Jan 22, 2018

WOOHOO!

csanc123 · Jan 22, 2018

Brave! How did you navigate all of those "zones". Seems like walking a block in any direction, one would hit a no carry zone.

Rob R. · Jan 22, 2018

Congrats and as mentioned above did you break out the gun free zone booby trap map?

rascal · Jan 22, 2018

Rob R. said:
Congrats and as mentioned above did you break out the gun free zone booby trap map?

The map is utterly bogus and people who used to respect John Lott now are convinced he is an idiot. Not one single attorney specializing in gun law agrees with Lott and his idiotic and bogus map. People with actual expertise have asked him to withdraw it as obviously incorrect and he refused to do so. I will never quote Lott again since I now doubt anything he writes or contends after knowing he simply will not admit it when he is glaringly wrong

Deep Thought said:
As long as it matches the caliber of one of your registered firearms, so I've heard. Sigh. Congrats tho!

That part of the code was removed

songlaw · Jan 22, 2018

"Carried in DC for the 1st Time today"

Congrats. I think we were in the same training class at MSAR @two weeks ago. When did you submit your application? I am wondering what their timetable is. I know it is supposed to be 90 days, but I have seen some grumbling.

swinokur · Jan 22, 2018

That map was incorrectly posted by John Lott and is based on an enhanced penalty statute and has been debunked by lawyers and MPDC itself.

With the exception of the White House, the Observatory and the Mall monuments, DC isn’t as bad as some other states’ restrictions

csanc123 · Jan 22, 2018

swinokur said:
That map was incorrectly posted by John Lott and is based on an enhanced penalty statute and has been debunked by lawyers and MPDC itself.

With the exception of the White House, the Observatory and the Mall monuments, DC isn’t as bad as some other states’ restrictions

Ahh. Good to know! That map was etched in my memory...good riddance!

rascal · Jan 22, 2018

csanc123 said:
Ahh. Good to know! That map was etched in my memory...good riddance!

I have supported lott in the sense I have always bought his books. Never again.
I sent Lott a note the day he published that map showing identical language in other states as well as pointing out to him that that statue had NO penalty but a "doubling" of penalty just like driving and "drug free" school zone laws, ie you have to be doing something ILLEGAL for that law to apply. I suggested he contact Gura or Lyon or any number of actual experts. instead he contacted an attorney with no background on the issue

His dumb map got picked up by the Washington Times, which has constantly been incorrectly claiming things like the caliber match to gun resticions years after that was dropped, live fire training for home registration years after that was dropped etc.

People like Lott are grandstanding and effectively harming second amendment rights by discouraging gun ownership in DC and carry in DC with utterly false claims as to the statutes

Rob R. · Jan 22, 2018

Thanks for clarification on that misleading map, I’ll burn it with fire lol

If I went to DC more than once a year I would certainly be signing up for the next class. PA is next up for me

swamplynx · Jan 22, 2018

Klunatic said:
I carried for the 1st time today since obtaining my permit in DC. I have got to admit it felt weird crossing the line into DC and not having to be disarmed. It was surreal that I could walk down the street and not worry about having a empty shell casing or god forbid a loaded round in my pocket/bag.

Who’s hand did you grease so they didn’t misplace your application for the first 90 days?

rascal · Jan 22, 2018

Rob R. said:
Thanks for clarification on that misleading map, I’ll burn it with fire lol

If I went to DC more than once a year I would certainly be signing up for the next class. PA is next up for me

it's cool rob. I just feel strongly about it because while I agree with criticizing DC laws, which don't address actual violent crime, which inherently place blame on the law abiding, and which are a gross violation for the second amendment; I also feel that exaggerating the DC laws also serves to discourage people from exercising their rights.

In order to get for example a gun for home protection, DC is absolute quicker and easier than NJ, has a much larger selection of allowed handguns than Cali or Mass., and cant be argued to take more time than Maryland. NRA-ILA this year keep saying DC is worst, Washington Times recently repeated it, when I have to wonder if anyone at NRA or the WTimes bothered to go through process in NJ (I have), Mass or Cali.

Klunatic · Jan 22, 2018

songlaw said:
"Carried in DC for the 1st Time today"

Congrats. I think we were in the same training class at MSAR @two weeks ago. When did you submit your application? I am wondering what their timetable is. I know it is supposed to be 90 days, but I have seen some grumbling.

Yes, Mr. Ed was there as well. I re-applied 10/5 right after the decision was announced regarding the SCOTUS appeal decision. It took 90 days for the decision but then I had to get additional training at MSAR.

Klunatic · Jan 22, 2018

swamplynx said:
Who’s hand did you grease so they didn’t misplace your application for the first 90 days?

My app has been in DC's hands since 2013. I have been working on getting a permit for 5 years.

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