Did Emily get her CCW permit?

myright · Feb 25, 2015

if I threat you will you threat me?. Works for most of
us.Team spirit people.

Gryphon · Feb 25, 2015

Interesting. Good for her, but I'd be willing to bet it won't be renewed if the Court's are no longer actively scrutinizing DC's actions when its time to re-apply? Unless, the appellate Court upholds Scullin or requires Shall Issue?

Soda · Feb 25, 2015

Of course she got her permit. She has the power of the press on her side. She would have made so much noise about not getting her permit. DC ended that bad press by just giving it to her. Though her two threats were documented with the DC police, they were the kind of vague threats that pretty much any reporter or public figure would receive. I bet if you or I tried to get a permit with the same G&S reason we would be quickly denied.

swinokur · Feb 25, 2015

yep. exactly.

It was a political decision, not a legal one.

still glad she prevailed.

Mooseman · Feb 25, 2015

I was fairly confident that she would get her permit and I'm glad she did.

MigraineMan · Feb 25, 2015

Good on her, though this part was a little depressing:

No one could legally carry a gun in D.C. a year ago. Today, there are 16 of us who may exercise our Second Amendment right to bear arms.

16 out of 660,000. That's still effectively zero.

moojersey · Feb 25, 2015

ryan_j said:
I'm glad she got it, but to me this sets back the cause.

Now DC can say that the issue carry permits and judges will say, "alright then, good enough."

But she did show documented threats and such, so she should have gotten it anyway.

I agree. I think it is kind of a setback. Not really a victory if you still have to provide specific documented threats.

rascal · Feb 25, 2015

ryan_j said:
I'm glad she got it, but to me this sets back the cause.

Now DC can say that the issue carry permits and judges will say, "alright then, good enough."

But she did show documented threats and such, so she should have gotten it anyway.

I agree. Emily miller, a couple of connected DC people, likely campaign contributors if NYC is any model, and Bloomberg's bodyguards.

This is a net setback. I'd rather have an outright ban than an Orwellian "some pigs are more equal than others" outcome

Mr Bear · Feb 26, 2015

Plus, since DC residents have no ranges within the city, they'll have to go to Md or Va for the shooting portion of their permit requirement. Don't know if the classroom portion is even offered in DC proper.

Another unnecessary burden dumped on DC's residents by their politicians, all in the name of making the city safer.

Soda · Feb 26, 2015

MigraineMan said:
Good on her, though this part was a little depressing:

16 out of 660,000. That's still effectively zero.

She keeps parroting a 20% approval rate based on the number of applicants (something like 76) and 16 approvals so far. She doesn't seem to "get it" that a ton of people DIDN'T even apply because they know they have no hope of passing the unconstitutional G&S portion of the application.

I really like Emily. I'm glad she's on our side. Still, she sometimes doesn't see the whole picture.

BeoBill · Feb 28, 2015

Soda said:
She keeps parroting a 20% approval rate based on the number of applicants (something like 76) and 16 approvals so far. She doesn't seem to "get it" that a ton of people DIDN'T even apply because they know they have no hope of passing the unconstitutional G&S portion of the application.

I really like Emily. I'm glad she's on our side. Still, she sometimes doesn't see the whole picture.

Or sometimes "selectively edits reality" for whatever reason.

rascal · Mar 4, 2015

Soda said:
She keeps parroting a 20% approval rate based on the number of applicants (something like 76) and 16 approvals so far. She doesn't seem to "get it" that a ton of people DIDN'T even apply because they know they have no hope of passing the unconstitutional G&S portion of the application.

I really like Emily. I'm glad she's on our side. Still, she sometimes doesn't see the whole picture.

She is beyond absurd with the 20% . And she has in my opinion vastly overstated the steps in getting a hone ownership permit and vastly understated the issue with DC carry permits.

I know a dozen DC residents who have home permits who would get carries, most of us have NR carry for Va., and who are not going to bother to pony up the money for an application knowing we will be turned down due to documented threat requirement.

Let's face facts, even if you never intend to carry, having a carry license gives you legal protection for all kinds of garbage inadvertent firearms violations DC has shown it is likely to persecute.

IJM · Mar 14, 2015

Soda said:
She keeps parroting a 20% approval rate based on the number of applicants (something like 76) and 16 approvals so far. She doesn't seem to "get it" that a ton of people DIDN'T even apply because they know they have no hope of passing the unconstitutional G&S portion of the application.

That would be me. :mad54:

rascal said:
Let's face facts, even if you never intend to carry, having a carry license gives you legal protection for all kinds of garbage inadvertent firearms violations DC has shown it is likely to persecute.

This is a very good point. :thumbsup:

Schipperke · Mar 20, 2015

BeoBill said:
Or sometimes "selectively edits reality" for whatever reason.

Selling books may be one.

jbrown50 · Mar 20, 2015

Let's not jump the gun here, so to speak. Preliminary approval subject to completing training is not a permit. She and the other 15 people still don't have a permit in hand. They've just been approved to receive a permit AFTER they pass DC's training program, which hasn't been formalized yet.

This foolishness is designed to dupe the public and the courts into thinking that DC has given 16 people carry permits when in reality no permits have been issued yet.

Mr H · Mar 20, 2015

whew...

I guess the chirluns are still safe...

Did Emily get her CCW permit?

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