crolfe1984
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I was told by the Officers that they were forwarded about 40+ cases where MD residents purchased from this dealer, and the firearms acquired should have been sold as a regulated item via a Maryland FFL.
A Personal Visit from the MD State Police…
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It does however use a different style magazine. I agree the lines get a bit blurred.
That is some pure BS. However, I'm sure they are going to ask whenever they have a chance just on the off chance they can catch someone not playing by the rules.
Until you are in Op's position its hard to say how you would react. I have my thoughts on how I'd do it, but I can get a top notch legal defense for free so being right won't cost me as much.
The police could have been dicks. Buying a regulated firearm out of state and not going through a MD dealer is a misdemeanor punishable by up to 5 years in prison and a $10K fine. If Op had said f-off I think a search warrant and charges would have been in his near future.
It would be fun to take MSP to court for a declaratory judgment that a 556 is not a regulated firearm, but you could lose and end up with some bad law that would hurt all of us.
The police could have been dicks. Buying a regulated firearm out of state and not going through a MD dealer is a misdemeanor punishable by up to 5 years in prison and a $10K fine. If Op had said f-off I think a search warrant and charges would have been in his near future.
It would be fun to take MSP to court for a declaratory judgment that a 556 is not a regulated firearm, but you could lose and end up with some bad law that would hurt all of us.
iH8DemLibz
When All Else Fails.
Knock Knock.
Who's there?
Mayipolice.
Mayipolice who?
Mayipolice see your entire collection.
Me thinks we are going to see a lot more of this.
And they May not say please next time.
Who's there?
Mayipolice.
Mayipolice who?
Mayipolice see your entire collection.
Me thinks we are going to see a lot more of this.
And they May not say please next time.
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/logic.
pilotguy299
Ultimate Member
They (551 & 556) appear to essentially be the same gun, except for the magazine used. I believe that the 551 takes a Swiss made proprietary magazine, while the 556 was designed to take M16/AR15 mags.
Is a different magazine sufficient enough to not be considered a copy?
Is a different magazine sufficient enough to not be considered a copy?
smores
Creepy-Ass Cracker
No one believed me when I said ir before, but I once was told by MSP that the SIG 556 is regulated because it takes AR-15 mags. I've also been told by a trooper that a stripped AR lower was not regulated.
Had I been in the OP's position I would have asked to see a warrant, not consented to any search, and called my lawyer ASAP.
You're not helping our cause if you play their games.
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I wanna go fast
They are NOT the same gun. They use the same action appear similar but the receivers are very different. Those Troopers had no business making you register it. Anyone else who encounters this scenario needs to refuse to let them in and demand to see a warrant.
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To my knowledge there's never been a definition of what constitutes a "copy".
That copy horse left the barn a long time and now that it's out, it's hard to gather it back.
Not saying I like it, but it is what it is.
Now, if they are just saying "we feel like it should be regulated just because...." then that's a little different.
Best answer we have... http://www.oag.state.md.us/Opinions/2010/95oag101.pdf
Looks don't count. If it takes different mags, it isn't functionally the same rifle (IMHO).
This reeks of a lawsuit. Making you register the firearm?
It's also obvious they have no idea what they are talking about because they brought up a feature test that doesn't exist yet.
Oh I would have no trouble believing someone told you that. I bet most of them couldn't tell you if the lower or upper of the 556 was the controlled item.
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And what would you sue them for?
- May 22, 2005
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Naturally, I agree in principle.
Yeah....that's the other part that stinks even worse than the idea of the rifle in question being a "copy".
I think that is the opinion that most FFLs have in selling it unregulated.
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I wanna go fast
Harassment, being coerced into "voluntary" registration. I'm sure a good lawyer could come up with something.
smores
Creepy-Ass Cracker
glad to hear it. The MSP is a joke. I have not had too many good experiences with them. SOME Troopers I have dealt with have been professional, knowledgeable and helpful, but the majority were not. They run things so arbitrarily, it's just sad.Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 4
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That's the only thing funnier then your other post.
A lawyer already posted his thoughts here on the matter...none of it was sue.
crolfe1984
Enthusiast
That was my understanding as well... also as it was the understanding of the VA FFL who sold me the rifle... and as it was for MANY Maryland dealers. Just want people to be aware of the view of the MSP on the Sig 556!
baconsandwich
master of the obvious
OP, did they say WHY they wanted to see your other firearms?
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