My MD Legal M1A

lazarus · Sep 1, 2016

ericoak said:
It's my gun and the receiver is interchangeable with a cast Springfield. The gas system uses a different these pitch, but this could be swapped as well. Can take a USGI barrel and bolt.

I understand that, but you asked. The receiver was still made as an M1A receiver. The ATF and presumably MSP would likely consider it an M1A no matter what you did to it. If they contacted the manufacturer about the serial number, it is going to show as an M1A.

I prefer not to rely on a good lawyer facing a felony charge if there ever was a reason for MSP to investigate one of my guns.

ericoak · Sep 1, 2016

lazarus said:
I understand that, but you asked. The receiver was still made as an M1A receiver. The ATF and presumably MSP would likely consider it an M1A no matter what you did to it. If they contacted the manufacturer about the serial number, it is going to show as an M1A.

I prefer not to rely on a good lawyer facing a felony charge if there ever was a reason for MSP to investigate one of my guns.

C308 built on PTR91 receiver is legal, PTR91 is banned.

HBAR or pistol built on AR15 lower legal, AR15 is banned.

M14S built on m1A dimensional equivalent receiver is legal, m1a is banned.

The receiver doesn't decide what is legal.

danb · Sep 1, 2016

The shoes are so 1980-late. Kudos for managing the MDS standard foot in the picture.

I do not really want to know where the other foot is.

How do these actually shoot? I have read mixed things.

ericoak · Sep 1, 2016

danb said:
The shoes are so 1980-late. Kudos for managing the MDS standard foot in the picture.

I do not really want to know where the other foot is.

How do these actually shoot? I have read mixed things.

I'm definitely not known for my fashion, well maybe I am but not in a good way

Barrel is considered high quality but has a NATO chamber. Bolts are known for being soft which causes head space issues.

Best remedy is a USGI bolt and barrel or Kreigar barrel. This is a later model with the fake flash hider, I think to get around import rules. Should have properly heat treated receiver. That can always be done later though if not.

But they were made on US m14 tooling that Smith from SEI helped the Taiwanese sell to the Chinese. If heat treated properly, it's much better than a Springfield cast receiver.

ken792 · Sep 1, 2016

The fake flash hider without the bayonet lug was put on rifles after the 1989 import ban so it has no evil features and is "sporting". To re-evil it, it can't have any more than ten imported parts on it.

Billman · Sep 1, 2016

Duffy's has one of those rifles looking for a new home.

ericoak · Sep 1, 2016

ken792 said:
The fake flash hider without the bayonet lug was put on rifles after the 1989 import ban so it has no evil features and is "sporting". To re-evil it, it can't have any more than ten imported parts on it.

True but all the parts people want to add are US made so not really a problem there. Not much spare foreign parts out there.

danb · Sep 1, 2016

So when do we get to see some actual pictures of groups?

ericoak · Sep 1, 2016

danb said:
So when do we get to see some actual pictures of groups?

Probably awhile. Havent decided how I'm going to proceed with it. I'm told it's good to check head space on these before firing. Gun came with a GI bolt so I might just swap out everything. Just wanted to get it in hand before Nov.

danb · Sep 1, 2016

Sounds like a girl I dated in college. I was not sure how to proceed. Too much head space. It was quite a while before I got to fondle, and in the end I wanted to swap out everything.

ericoak · Sep 1, 2016

danb said:
Sounds like a girl I dated in college. I was not sure how to proceed. Too much head space. It was quite a while before I got to fondle, and in the end I wanted to swap out everything.

If the price is right...

Pinecone · Sep 4, 2016

lazarus said:
I'd assume no, because the receiver is an M1A, which is banned by name. What he has there is an M-14s which is not banned by name and because certain critical parts are not interchangeable it is not a COPY.

FTFY.

Copycat is the 29" and two evil features.

sailskidrive · Sep 5, 2016

There is a really good write up out on the web (I believe on Warrifles.com) by Walt Kulick formerly of Fulton Armoryon on the CHICOM M14 copies.

Basically, he likes the receivers and blasts everything else. He rambles on about dimensional fidelity and how every NORINCO rifle was basically a one off as parts usually didn't swap well between rifles built on the same assembly line.

Take it with a grain of salt as his job was to sell $3500 hand built rifles, but it's worth the read if you can locate it.

I remember when these were $299 in the early 90s before Clinton signed the import ban. I bought a MAK90 instead as they were only $239. Haha

outrider58 · Sep 5, 2016

teratos said:
I would imagine it would be by the criteria these idiots use. Someone ought to just build the guns on Springfield receivers, re-thread everything metric and sell them.

So when's the mill coming? :evilgrin3

Sleepy · Nov 17, 2016

So what about the James River Rock-ola M14?

Is that a copy or does it get the non-interchangeable parts tag?

Tower43 · Dec 6, 2016

lazarus said:
I'd assume no, because the receiver is an M1A, which is banned by name. What he has there is an M-14s which is not banned by name and because certain critical parts are not interchangeable it is not a copycat.

which ones are legal? I really want to get an M14 lol

dist1646 · Dec 6, 2016

The real deal full auto M14 is legal (with appropriate BATFE paperwork). The Chinese versions of the M1A are legal ( Norinco/Polytech). The made in USA versions of the M1A are banned here in the CPRM.

Doctor_M · Dec 6, 2016

ericoak said:
Its wood.

That's what she said.

Sirex · Dec 7, 2016

Thank goodness it's not as dangerous as a genuine M1A.

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