Fired out of Battery, or Bad Ammo?

• Jan 26, 2015

• #1

CaribooLou

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Jan 18, 2013

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Had this happen to me on Friday out of my M&P 40 shooting factory reloaded 180gr ammo. I've never seen one pop like this before. Look to me like the round didn't chamber completely and the gun fired out of battery, but it also could have been bad ammo. I took a face full of powder and smoke and the pistol seems to have made it through unharmed with only a small chunk missing from the extractor. I'm going to have a smith look it over. Any thoughts?

 

• Jan 26, 2015

• #2

89GLH

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Jan 26, 2012

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Case head separation on factory ammo? Or did the round chamber funny, and pinch somehow?

 

• Jan 26, 2015

• #3

lx1x

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Good thing no harm to you.

Most gun shouldn't fire out of battery. You sure it was?

Maybe just bad brass..

 

• Jan 26, 2015

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AntiGun

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"factory reloaded" rounds - I'd be checking any remaining reloads carefully as well as having a smith take a look at the gun.

 

• Jan 26, 2015

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CaribooLou

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lx1x said:

Good thing no harm to you.

Most gun shouldn't fire out of battery. You sure it was?

Maybe just bad brass..

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AntiGun said:

"factory reloaded" rounds - I'd be checking any remaining reloads carefully as well as having a smith take a look at the gun.

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I couldn't get it to fire out of battery, I'm thinking it was bad brass.

I think I'm done shooting reman ammo.

 

• Jan 26, 2015

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lx1x

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CaribooLou said:

I couldn't get it to fire out of battery, I'm thinking it was bad brass.

I think I'm done shooting reman ammo.

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Brass was PMC.. Who is the remanufacturer?

 

• Jan 26, 2015

• #7

CaribooLou

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Jan 18, 2013

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lx1x said:

Brass was PMC.. Who is the remanufacturer?

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Freedom Munitions

 

• Jan 26, 2015

• #8

lx1x

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CaribooLou said:

Freedom Munitions

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Maybe get a hold of them.. Share the photo etc.

Not the first I heard of bad ammo coming from them.

 

• Jan 26, 2015

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HortusQ

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third rock from the Sun

share photo w/ freedom munitions and send it back
glad no one was hurt

 

• Jan 26, 2015

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CaribooLou

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lx1x said:

Maybe get a hold of them.. Share the photo etc.

Not the first I heard of bad ammo coming from them.

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I'm waiting to hear back from them, I'm not looking for them to replace my extractor, just want to return the 300 rounds I have left.

 

• Jan 26, 2015

• #11

outrider58

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Check remaining ammo for a light line going around the cartridge in approximately the same place. It may prove case head separation claim for refund/liability.

 

• Jan 26, 2015

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vfr750f

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As a first time customer of Freedom munitions, I bought their reloaded 9mm, and their new 45 and 10mm. One of the 9mm luger rounds was actually loaded into a 9mm Makarov case. One of their new 45 auto loads was so undercharged that there was no slide movement and minimal recoil. The bullet did make it out of the barrel, though. I only bought from them because I can't find any pistol powder, and I don't think I'll buy from them again.

 

• Jan 26, 2015

• #13

outrider58

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I've only bought brass from them and will examin it very thoroughly after seeing this thread.

 

• Jan 26, 2015

• #14

jimbobborg

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High primer is a likely culprit.

 

• Jan 26, 2015

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traveller

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That is not the first M&P with a out of battery firing event. How is the pin safety set up on those ?

 

• Jan 26, 2015

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lee2

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dont shoot the gun again.,contact S&W. that should not have fired!

 

• Jan 26, 2015

• #17

outrider58

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lee2 said:

dont shoot the gun again.,contact S&W. that should not have fired!

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OP's sending it to a GS. Says it broke the extractor.

 

• Jan 26, 2015

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psusra112

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jimbobborg said:

High primer is a likely culprit.

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Looks like this, honestly. They had some of the same issues with their .223 ammo if I remember correctly.

 

• Jan 26, 2015

• #19

august1410

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Apr 10, 2009

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A buddy of mine got some of their ammo at a gun show and it was crap. I had to clear a stuck bullet from the barrel of his Governor.

 

• Jan 26, 2015

• #20

GoGoGadget

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Mar 10, 2011

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Geez, I'm glad no one was injured and good luck with your extractor!

Note to self: stay clear for Freedom Munitions ammo. The only remanufactured ammo that I shoot regularly is Georgia arms .38 special - never had a problem. But then again, I'm shooting it in a revolver.