Hit and Run
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Because my Federal License requires it. ATF does not care per se what State requires. I need to meet both to do business legally in Maryland
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MSP 77r e-portal goes live 1-1-17
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Hit and Run
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Private gun transfer does not require 4473 at Federal level.
State law requires 77r for transfer of State regulated weapons ( handguns). MSP doing 77r at barracks is in effect doing a private party gun transfer that meets state law. The state requires the expanded background check to include NICS. No requirement for MSP to complete 4473 as no Federal requirement for it. That would be my read on why MSP doesn't do 4473.
Takeaway, 4473 is Federal Requirement. 77r is State Requirement. Both are required when transferring or buying handgun in Maryland via FFL (where FFL enters weapon in his A&D book).
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it's not MSP. The law says 7 days.
j_h_smith
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- Jul 28, 2007
- 28,516
They seem to send out the email at 6am on the 7th day for most people. I doubt anyone gets their email in less than 7 days because of the law. I doubt it actually takes them 7 days to do the background check, but since the law says 7 days, they're not going to send that email until the 7th day.
I'm certain it takes less than 7. When BassPro screwed up my 77r last summer BassPro told me they had already received my not disapproved and the ND email stated the release date to me to be 4 days later (basically doing the 8th day calculation for the seller).
- Feb 4, 2013
- 28,175
If you go into the system and "print" the 77r, you can see it was Not Disapproved well before the 7th day.
But the list of applications will not say this. You have to "print" the actual form.
The email goes out on the 7th day, just to keep the buyer from going to the store and saying, I got my Not Disapproved, so give me my pistol. And have the FFL have to explain the 7th day rule.
In the past, the FFL got the paperwork early, but the buyer did not know when it came in, so all all the buyer knew is the day the FFL told them to come pick up.
But the list of applications will not say this. You have to "print" the actual form.
The email goes out on the 7th day, just to keep the buyer from going to the store and saying, I got my Not Disapproved, so give me my pistol. And have the FFL have to explain the 7th day rule.
In the past, the FFL got the paperwork early, but the buyer did not know when it came in, so all all the buyer knew is the day the FFL told them to come pick up.
- Feb 12, 2017
- 22
I was surprised how easy the online 77R was. I was skeptical at first and thought I would have to wait 8 days or more. I bought a lower receiver on a Sunday and was shocked that they don't count Sunday's anymore. I picked my lower up on a Sunday after getting the Email early Sunday morning.
j_h_smith
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- Jul 28, 2007
- 28,516
I don't know why you have to insert your HQL every time you complete the applications. You would think that after 3 or 4, they'd self populate that field for you. They do the other stuff like your name, address and other "important" information.
basscat
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- Jul 23, 2012
- 1,397
I'm glad you found it so easy. Keep that in mind when you have to do it for long guns.
- Feb 4, 2013
- 28,175
That is strange, as the old 77r specifically stated that the transfer could not occur on a Sunday or Holiday.
- Feb 4, 2013
- 28,175
indeed.
MEGARMS
KnowNothing
I just did my first online 77r and am meeting the seller at the MSP barracks tomorrow. I did not see a place where I could pay the $10 online, so I am assuming it is still only payable by check at the barracks?
BUFF7MM
☠Buff➐㎣☠
Nope, they now require a credit card
NoFro
Member
And you'll pay when you submit the paperwork to MSP with the gun information
j_h_smith
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- Jul 28, 2007
- 28,516
My last one was 2/12/2017 and I was 10,760.
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