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Old January 11th, 2019, 09:01 PM #21
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I think of it terms of what I call the Leftist Triangle...

The area loosely bounded by MD295, I270 and I70 (including Baltimore City, of course) is very roughly the blue stain on an otherwise red state.
The I-95 Axis. AKA the Axis of Evil. I'd dearly love to see a trade...Southern Maryland, Western Maryland, and the Eastern Shore to Virginia, in exchange for Northern VA going to Maryland.
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Old January 11th, 2019, 09:13 PM #22
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If anything it will hurt the House blue dog dems in the southern states who get put between a rock and a hard place as to whether to vote the will of Herr Nancy or piss off many of their constituents. This will die in the Senate if it even makes it that far, which I doubt. Which is good, because I no longer trust Mr. "Due Process Later" Trump to outright veto an AWB instead of agreeing to sign a watered down one.

HOWEVER, 2020 could be a different story. Not looking forward to the coming era.
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What if the Democrats offer Trump everything he wants for a border wall but the catch is they get onerous gun control laws in trade?
I gotta agree that this is something that we need to watch out for. The longer this shutdown grinds on, the longer politicians are going to feel the heat. Barring an obvious and overwhelming citizen approval to build the wall, I have zero faith that the Senate will block this bill if getting the wall funded, ending the shutdown and AWB are all intertwined.

I take it there's also no sunset clause in this version, correct?
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Old January 12th, 2019, 08:20 AM #24
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I gotta agree that this is something that we need to watch out for. The longer this shutdown grinds on, the longer politicians are going to feel the heat. Barring an obvious and overwhelming citizen approval to build the wall, I have zero faith that the Senate will block this bill if getting the wall funded, ending the shutdown and AWB are all intertwined.



I take it there's also no sunset clause in this version, correct?


This is my worry exactly. The Dems offering the wall in exchange for the ban. Trump is only a friend on 2A if he thinks it will cost him an election.


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I think universal background checks has a better chance of passing than this "assault weapons" ban.
http://https://abcnews.go.com/beta-s...ry?id=60210896

And I think "Take the guns first, then worry about due process" Trump will sign it.
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Old January 12th, 2019, 10:43 AM #26
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This what I sent to Senator Ben Cardin:

I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery" is a translation of a Latin phrase that Thomas Jefferson used: "Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem." It has also been translated as, "I prefer the tumult of liberty to the quiet of servitude."
Jefferson used the Latin phrase in the following letter to James Madison:
Societies exist under three forms sufficiently distinguishable.
1. Without government, as among our Indians.
2. Under governments wherein the will of every one has a just influence, as is the case in England in a slight degree, and in our states in a great one.
3. Under governments of force: as is the case in all other monarchies and in most of the other republics. To have an idea of the curse of existence under these last, they must be seen.
It is a government of wolves over sheep. It is a problem, not clear in my mind, that the 1st. condition is not the best. But I believe it to be inconsistent with any great degree of population. The second state has a great deal of good in it. The mass of mankind under that enjoys a precious degree of liberty and happiness. It has it's evils too: the principal of which is the turbulence to which it is subject. But weigh this against the oppressions of monarchy, and it becomes nothing. Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem. Even this evil is productive of good. It prevents the degeneracy of government, and nourishes a general attention to the public affairs. I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing, and as necessary in the political world as storms in the physical. - Jefferson to Madison, January 30, 1787
You will get a email from Cardin thanking you for supporting common sense safety for the people.
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Sarbanes, Cardin, and Van Hollen - I'm sure we can rely on them to help us. I'll get right on those emails.
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I think of it terms of what I call the Leftist Triangle...

The area loosely bounded by MD295, I270 and I70 (including Baltimore City, of course) is very roughly the blue stain on an otherwise red state.
PeeGee is a vast Blue wasteland. Every D up for reelection locally was unopposed. And Geraldine (Bowie) was selected to launch the Red Flag Bill.

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Sarbanes, Cardin, and Van Hollen - I'm sure we can rely on them to help us. I'll get right on those emails.
I'll save their staff the trouble and just send my emails directly to /dev/null.
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Never trust a politician...especially your political friends. You know your political opponents are out to shaft you...
EVERY.. single political friend I know... has tried to get me to work w/ them on some sensible gun laws. I ask them, sensible to who's opinion and to what purpose? Sure to "make america safe" but.. the BIGGER picture is more like an author getting published.. they want to make a name for themselves by passing a "great gun law that makes sense for everyone."
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Do you remember that NRA ad from the early '90s about a politician coming up with a new gun law to protect the public and it showed a crook laughing while he watched it on tv? I attended law enforcement day at the then new NRA headquarters and Wayne LaPierre told us that was based upon a real incident with a politician. I'm sure it's happened far more than once.
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