So what if Hogan wins a Second term?

Jim12 · Jun 27, 2018

Mr H said:
In a discussion I had with a 'friendly' delegate, part of the concern was what the Steaming Pile of Frosh might have been able to do in opposition to any Pro bills that were signed.

Craig Wolf must win.

He has a long row to hoe. From the low-turnout primary results and undervotes, looks like Republicans don't know who he is.

Good news is it looks like Dems don't know who his opponent is, either.

Wolf definitely needs name and achievements recognition. Hope he has a plan to do it.

Matlack · Jun 27, 2018

Low voter turn out is likely due to numerous up ballot Republicans were unopposed.

Mr H · Jun 27, 2018

Jim12 said:
He has a long row to hoe. From the low-turnout primary results and undervotes, looks like Republicans don't know who he is.

Good news is it looks like Dems don't know who his opponent is, either.

Wolf definitely needs name and achievements recognition. Hope he has a plan to do it.

The bolded is interesting.

LG Rutherford was at that event, and in his comments he mentioned that Frosh lacks statewide name recognition! In speaking to people since, I've gotten blank stares more often than good or bad reactions when Frosh is mentioned.

Mr H · Jun 27, 2018

Matlack said:
Low voter turn out is likely due to numerous up ballot Republicans were unopposed.

Yep...

As I mentioned in another thread, ignore the skew between D and R totals in the primaries. This election will be decided among the Unaffiliated and disaffected.

If the polls are to be believed, then older Ds can be convinced (again) to cross over in November.

Jim12 · Jun 27, 2018

Mr H said:
The bolded is interesting.

LG Rutherford was at that event, and in his comments he mentioned that Frosh lacks statewide name recognition! In speaking to people since, I've gotten blank stares more often than good or bad reactions when Frosh is mentioned.

A huge percentage of people in every state have no idea who their state or federal officials at some or all levels are. They vote by party.

AG is obscure enough that most of the electorate probably doesn't have a clue.

Craig Wolf needs a hook and something memorable that people can attach to his name.

Fox123 · Jun 27, 2018

Can’t say Hogan will be better in his second term, by then he will be looking at presidency.

dblas · Jun 27, 2018

Augie said:
Wasn't the bump stock ban passed with 7 days left? If so he has to pass or veto before the end of session and they can over ride his veto.
The red flag he could have vetoed but they would be using it against him right now.

Nope, it was passed after the "7 day" deadline, as was the Red Flag bill.

dblas · Jun 27, 2018

fidelity said:
Wondering the effect that Jealous will have on Hogan. Will he move further to the left, or speak out against Jealous's policy platforms and for more limited government? He ran against increasing taxes last time, so I would expect consistency on this issue (and thus support of more limited government).

I would expect him to stay close to the "center" as he has been, but he (his campaign staff) will more than likely come out with counters to Jealous's policy positions.

fidelity said:
At the same time, Hogan's been doing his best to depress support from Trump voters, immigration control advocates, and 2A proponents in the state. Some might be political calculation, indifference towards these constituencies, etc. But Jealous is going to energize his base and be a more capable opponent than Brown (coming off of 8 years of O'Malley with people receptive to change). It's not like Trump voters, immigration control advocates, and 2A supporters are going to vote for Jealous, but I wonder if Hogan is going to make any effort to fire up these voters, or punt and hope that fear of Jealous will help with Republican turnout. I think this play-it-safe, adopt more left-leaning-positions strategy would be a mistake as some of these Democrats (that vote in polls that they like Hogan) will vote in the actual election for Jealous, if simply to send a message to Trump (while at the same time saying that Hogan is a nice guy).

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I doubt he will make any meaningful move to become more approachable to 2A folks, the most he did in that regard last election was a pre-primary meeting with the state level organizations, and then blew us off after that. I don't see him changing that this time around.

He will continue to work on the unaffiliated in this state, as well as the moderate Democrats that do not like the far left policies of some of the candidates.

dblas · Jun 27, 2018

Mr H said:
In a discussion I had with a 'friendly' delegate, part of the concern was what the Steaming Pile of Frosh might have been able to do in opposition to any Pro bills that were signed.

Craig Wolf must win.

Hogan has signed two in his first term, I have yet to see anything from the other side about them. He also signed two against the 2A, and even if he had vetoed them, the odds are still out on how the other side would have spun them.

dblas · Jun 27, 2018

Jim12 said:
They still would have used his veto during this fall campaign as potent fodder to defeat him and elect Jealous.

Maybe, maybe not, the jury is still out, and since he didn't veto them, we will never know for sure.

Jim12 said:
Then, who decides whether it's similar enough or the same legislation that's being "brought back" versus something different? There are lots of ways to skin a cat. With the Dems in full control in the MGA, AG office, and the governorship, they would. Right?

Nothing prevents a vetoed bill from coming back and being tried again. You also assume that they will win the AG office, and that they will pick up more seats in the House and Senate, when the Dems have lost seats in the last three elections in the House.

dblas · Jun 27, 2018

Matlack said:
Low voter turn out is likely due to numerous up ballot Republicans were unopposed.

This, the numbers in the primary never really give us a whole picture and never have.

Mr H · Jun 27, 2018

Fox123 said:
Can’t say Hogan will be better in his second term, by then he will be looking at presidency.

Never heard the "P word" in connection with Hogan before. At least not in my conversations.

I could, however, see him popping for a Senate run. But I said the same about Ehrlich too, soooo....

Bob A · Jun 28, 2018

Hogan for POTUS? Might have a chance, running as a Democrat. Another few years of the far-left alienating everyone, the Dems will be desperate for a sane candidate.

The Rep brass might like him, but I don't think he'd appeal to the base. But what do I know, anyway? If I was as smart as all that, why am I living in MD?

TargetGrade · Jun 28, 2018

Fox123 said:
Can’t say Hogan will be better in his second term, by then he will be looking at presidency.

I think I just saw a winged donkey.....

Cold Steel · Jul 2, 2018

I'd like to see all the Republicrats in this state refrain from supporting, campaigning for, or voting for Hogan. Either that or inviting him on this board to answer questions from the members. At this point, after tying that damn Purple Metro Line around our necks, I'd be for voting for his opposition. We have to shake off the dead wood before we can put another Republican in office, and Hogan is keeping us from putting another Republican in his seat.

At this point, what can they do to saddle us with more repressive laws than we already have?

Rabu Rabu · Jul 2, 2018

Cold Steel said:
At this point, what can they do to saddle us with more repressive laws than we already have?

You heard it here first, boys. It can't get worse.

BradMacc82 · Jul 2, 2018

It can always get worse.

It sucks right now, but it can get a hell of a lot worse. Especially seeing how legal challenges go in MD.

Blacksmith101 · Jul 2, 2018

Cold Steel said:
I'd like to see all the Republicrats in this state refrain from supporting, campaigning for, or voting for Hogan. Either that or inviting him on this board to answer questions from the members. At this point, after tying that damn Purple Metro Line around our necks, I'd be for voting for his opposition. We have to shake off the dead wood before we can put another Republican in office, and Hogan is keeping us from putting another Republican in his seat.

At this point, what can they do to saddle us with more repressive laws than we already have?

Ben Jealous has a plan. :sad20:

Hawkeye · Jul 3, 2018

Cold Steel said:
At this point, what can they do to saddle us with more repressive laws than we already have?

I hope you don't mean that as a serious question.

Fox123 · Jul 3, 2018

Mr H said:
Never heard the "P word" in connection with Hogan before. At least not in my conversations.

I could, however, see him popping for a Senate run. But I said the same about Ehrlich too, soooo....

I see the anti trump republicans looking to try and convince him to primary challenge trump in 2 years.

So what if Hogan wins a Second term?

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