SHTF Rifles!!!
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MikeSP
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When you talk about finding ammo are you talking about going shopping in a local store and "finding" it for sale or are you talking about "finding" ammo laying around or in abandoned houses, on dead people, etc?
I guess I was imagining having to supply my own ammo needs and the only available ammo will be that which I stockpile myself. I suppose if in the months/years following a SHTF when the recovery is started, imported 7.62x39 might not exist, but some domestic production of 5.56 might have a better chance of seeing the market?
sailskidrive
Legalize the Constitution
They need a "rabbit hole" emoticon on here...
fivepointstar
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every man has his kriptonite.....this is mine
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every man has his kriptonite.....this is mine
If that's Kryptonite, where can we start a group buy on it???
If that's Kryptonite, where can we start a group buy on it???
Ask the Secret Service
Bazinga!
oldman12
Ultimate Member
In a SHTF scenario, Ammo shelves will be dry.I was talking what could be scavenged. Common hunting rounds or .223 would be easier to find.
jimbobborg
Oddball caliber fan
If you are basing your survival on finding ammo after SHTF, you will not survive. Stock it now, you won't find anything later. The only thing littering the streets will be spent brass.
browning guy
SCRUFFY NERF HERDER
Ok, I will be the guy who does it!
When people say "find" ammo after the poop go's round the fan, Most people know at some point it could mean looting the bodies of dead us soldiers or leo.
in that case having a rifle in 5.56 and a pistol in 9mm or .40 short and weak is a great idea. But keep in mind if the shtf senerio you are planning for is the fall of society with massive fire fights included Then Jim is correct living off the dead is a no win idea! make room in the basement for more ammo,powder,brass and primers. Even if you don't shoot it it will be better then gold to trade with.
jimbobborg
Oddball caliber fan
The people who shot said person will be the one looting the body for ammo. I've come to the conclusion that people in general suck, and if you depend on someone else, especially a stranger to you, to render any kind of aid, you will be quickly disappointed.
Blanche DuBois to the contrary, these are wise principles to adhere to.
People are indeed bastard coated bastards with bastard filling, and when the SHTF, you can multiply the bastard rating by 100 or more.
Nemesis
Russian Grizzly Adams
Wtf senario is going to include looting dead soldiers? If we get invaded why would you even be worried about what gun you own now? Find your nearest base and let them arm you...and hell, you wont be picking up ammo from their bodies, they will be giving it to you...
Only thing i can think of is if you expect to be killing our troops...the biggwst point, but not only, point with that is........do you honestly believe that tge us armed forces would go to war against its own country? Considering how soldiers are being shafted by uncle sam left and right anyway?
Only thing i can think of is if you expect to be killing our troops...the biggwst point, but not only, point with that is........do you honestly believe that tge us armed forces would go to war against its own country? Considering how soldiers are being shafted by uncle sam left and right anyway?
browning guy
SCRUFFY NERF HERDER
This sir, is the truth!
Thats why in a true shtfs, my family and friends have plans to come
gether and work as a team there will be safety in numbers. Lone wolves are easy targets.
you can be armed like Rambo but ou have to sleep sometime you have to eat and take care of basic survival. This can all be alot easier with people working together to stay alive.
load up the basement and don't try to live off hope.
browning guy
SCRUFFY NERF HERDER
ok, this thread is about a shtf situation. Pick your situation
1. zombies....we all saw walking dead, dead soldiers laying all over the place, loot as you can
2. alien invasion. again dead soldiers and trashed equipment scrounge all you can
3. red dawn, ok they were using soviet equipment but still looted
4. katrina, Well we all hope the national guard will not do anything stupid you know like try and disarm lawful gun owners or they them selves take advantage of the sisuation and do some freestyle looting of their own, then becoming targets and a gun store on two feet.
5. economic meltdown, well if soldiers/guards man are used to restor order or repress the hoards of out of work citizens and do the bidding of the Lords in d.c well again a fair source of gear and weapons.
6. the second term of obummer, or the start of the revelotion
Not every british solder during the American revolution was a evil agent of the king beating in the skulls of american babies but they were in a war zone and fair game for shooting and looting. Same if you choose to revolt now an enemy soldier is a target and a source of gear.
7. I am not in any way supporting killing us soldiers!!!!!! come on now we are talking about zombies and freaking alien invasion sh*t here
KMK1862
Ultimate Member
Your question is rhetorical, because this scenario has already happened and it was a bloodbath. See U.S. Civil War, 1861-1865. Before anyone chimes in and says that the Confederacy was a foreign country, that is not true from the Union point of view. The Confederate States were considered to be "in rebellion against the United States". The US government did not acknowledge them as an independant country.
I don't have the exact number, but half or more of the 1860-61 US Army officer corps sided with the Confederacy. I don't have any numbers for enlisted or non-coms.
My point is that while some left, others stayed. Not everyone currently wearing the uniform is a die hard constitutionalist, pro-2A, or libertarian.
This is not a knock on the men and women wearing the uniform, just, IMO, the breakdown of the demographic.
browning guy
SCRUFFY NERF HERDER
Boats
Broken Member
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Boats... you da man I like that set-up
Semper Noctem
Desk Rabbit
Well played.
Gino z32
that car guy
haven't read through this thread, but IMO the best SHTF rifle is the same rifle that everyone else will be using! You will never run out of parts/ammo when you just walk around taking them off the dead bodies!
I would say the best SHTF rifle is one that is compact yet accurate, packs a punch, and is reliable/easy to maintain. As well as chambered in a widely used caliber so ammo should be easily available to stock up beforehand, and hopefully somewhat easy to find after SHTF.
I would say the best SHTF rifle is one that is compact yet accurate, packs a punch, and is reliable/easy to maintain. As well as chambered in a widely used caliber so ammo should be easily available to stock up beforehand, and hopefully somewhat easy to find after SHTF.
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