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Old August 1st, 2020, 07:40 PM #21
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Well, after looking all of yesterday and today, we were about to buy a car at Bob Bell in Glen Burnie for about $6,300, but after the fees they charge, tax, tag, and title, the car right around $7,300. They refused to negotiate on the price, even a dollar, so we immediately got up and walked away. It's absolutely ridiculous that they try to screw people over like that. This is just a little heads up if anyone was thinking about going there anytime soon
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Anything that cheap from a dealer is likely to be more trouble than it's worth.

If I were looking for cheap basic transportation and not caring what anyone thought about the car, I would be looking at a Chevy Malibu.

There is literally nothing on that car that is not a straight off the shelf GM product that has been proven over and over again.

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...ckType=listing

JBA has a reputation for being pretty straight forward as far as dealerships go and that $10k car has a TON of negotiation in that price built in.
I've heard good things about the Malibu, so I'll definitely keep that in mind. Thanks for the recommendation!
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Those Malibus are all over Autotrader.

Hell, there's a 2018 with 35k miles on it for $16k. Know that's outside of your stated price range, but that is a hell of a deal on a car that has at least a decade of life left in it.
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I've heard good things about the Malibu, so I'll definitely keep that in mind. Thanks for the recommendation!
It's a box with wheels, but they are generally comfortable and reliable.

I would personally look at the 6 cylinder in the previous generation because that GM 3.6 has been used over, and over, and over in a wide range of applications and the bugs have been worked out.

The current generation is limited to the 2.0 turbo as far as I know.
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She doesn't want to keep running her credit check with loan applications. It will ding her credit, especially since she has very limited credit history. I would have recommended my BIL but his cheapest is between 9k and 10k. If she has 7k, see what carmax has available for under 5k. She wants to have some in the bank incase it needs repairs. Again, I suggest a low mileage Honda accord or civic. Maybe from early 2000's. Heck I've got an 07 with only 120k miles on it. No its not for sale, I'm running it until it dies.
^ This. Find an older Civic, they run for a stupid long time. My BIL just got rid of the ‘93 that he got from his sister about 10yrs ago. She got the car new originally, it had just over 300K miles and was done in by a tree that fell on it to damage the windshield frame enough to make it not worth repairing further.

I sold him my wife’s old car I was selling anyway- 2014 Chevy Spark. Those little things are tanks too- Korean made global platform that ran over 40mpg. Only negative on that model is extremely high insurance cost (high fatality rate).
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It's a box with wheels, but they are generally comfortable and reliable.

I would personally look at the 6 cylinder in the previous generation because that GM 3.6 has been used over, and over, and over in a wide range of applications and the bugs have been worked out.

The current generation is limited to the 2.0 turbo as far as I know.
Or an Impala with the 3800 V6. Those things were tanks too with a little more room.
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Well, after looking all of yesterday and today, we were about to buy a car at Bob Bell in Glen Burnie for about $6,300, but after the fees they charge, tax, tag, and title, the car right around $7,300. They refused to negotiate on the price, even a dollar, so we immediately got up and walked away. It's absolutely ridiculous that they try to screw people over like that. This is just a little heads up if anyone was thinking about going there anytime soon

I bought a used mustang a few years ago from bob bell ford. It was a great experience. Negotiation on the cars price was difficult. Got a loan through them and overall it was a pleasant experience. I would deal with them again.
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Or an Impala with the 3800 V6. Those things were tanks too with a little more room.
Yup. If you just don't care about what other people think, there is some real value in boring GM sedans like these. Totally off the shelf and proven parts, with no "innovation" that leaves the owner paying the R+D for the manufacturer to figure stuff out after the car is on the road.

There's a reason old men buy those cars....not because they love them, but because a car is nothing more than transportation and they don't want the expense of fixing stuff.

I would totally buy an Impala or Malibu for a banging around town car.

The new style on the Buick Regal GS is fantastic if you like sedans. They could have really knocked it out of the park with this car, but of course only got 75% of the way there because they play things too safe.

Those cars depreciate like a stone and you can end up with a damned nice car at a fraction of the new cost after three years and they have zero miles on them because they are driven by old men.

Slap a mild tune on that 3.6l V6 and you have a passably fun and comfortable car. It's no BMW, Lexus or Benz in any way, but again passable.
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I think this is the non-turbo inline 4.

https://www.jbachevrolet.com/Vehicle...-MD/4618331913

You aren't going anywhere in a hurry, but at $8k and a respectable CarFax for a 10 year old car, it might do it.
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As a for instance on one that I would pass on:

https://www.carfax.com/VehicleHistor...o=%27carfax%27

Looking at the ad, a decent deal.

But the CarFax raises some concerns. VWs are all about the service interval and who is doing the service. They are not plug and play cars that you can just drive without taking care of them.

Owner #1 was excellent. Good intervals and done at the dealer (ouch on the cost, though).

Owner #2 - servicing a VW at Pep Boys and then it completely drops off.

Unless something is just missing here, I wouldn't even look at this car because it's heading for major engine issues if it hasn't been properly maintained.

After owning 2 German cars, I've had my fill of their finicky needs.
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