A little better each day. She is convincing herself she saved me though
PSA: keep your head on a swivel and your wits about you at west Va state parks
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A little better each day. She is convincing herself she saved me though
I drew with my back to them and as I turned around and they came down the stairs. And I kept it hidden till the end.
I probably looked shit simple standing there cross armed but oh well
Half-cocked
Senior Meatbag
- Mar 14, 2006
- 23,937
Got it. This is obviously informative/educational for those of us who carry (where permitted).
I was contemplating the pros and cons of open vs concealed carry in this situation. I think concealed worked out better for you. While it could be argued that they would have avoided you altogether if your firearm was on your person (and we'll imagine for now it was a more intimidating 44 revolver ), it gives them a tactical advantage as they might keep their mouths shut, and having numbers, grab you and try to disarm you. Really a factor of how daring, stupid, and able to control their mouths if they were to attempt to pull this off.
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Bullies are cowards trying to hide their cowardice.
6Den
Active Member
Just noticed and read this entire thread. So glad things turned out OK for you and your wife, .44! Kudos to you for thinking clearly under stress. I hope this experience doesn't haunt either of you long term and keep you from enjoying yourselves. I had an encounter in my own home awhile back and I was wigged out for some time. PTSD is very real. How does your wife feel about arming herself? Perhaps that could have been an equalizer.
PTSD? I don't know if that's what is going on but the incident is almost all she has talked about since then. She even blurted out today " you shoulda just shot those mfers". And the more I think about it the more I feel somehow it was my fault.
She did look at big cans of bear spray yesterday at green top. She also handled the smith today and her 38 smith revolver and some bigger guns in the safe.
She did say when we go next time she wants me to carry either one of my .45 or one of my .44s in a chest rig. And that she will have bear spray and she may carry my .380 s and w bodyguard. We will see.
I will not let this ruin she and I taking trips to the mountains or anywhere else.
I hate pillheads and meth heads and all dopers in general. I hope they all od and sooner rather than later.
6Den
Active Member
It was neither your faults. You were both VICTIMS and you handled it the best you could in that moment. No one got hurt. Just be thankful and don't beat yourselves up. I was disappointed in myself in ways I thought I "failed" under duress. Hindsight is just that. Take this experience and let it prepare you better for the next -- may the next never come. You did very well.
The only thing you failed at was being a good little victim. You defend your wife and self perfectly. You lost no property, suffered no injury, had no legal expenses. Hells bells your not even out the cost of a cartridge.
It's always easy to wonder what you could have done better, but circumstances rarely line up for total movie like perfection. Remember they get to rehearse and are all reading from the same script with a director. You are herding cats to try and control the situation. You did very well and learned what you want to may to adjust in the future.
It's always easy to wonder what you could have done better, but circumstances rarely line up for total movie like perfection. Remember they get to rehearse and are all reading from the same script with a director. You are herding cats to try and control the situation. You did very well and learned what you want to may to adjust in the future.
I'm a fan of anything, so long as it's SOMETHING... although .380 would be as small as I'd probably go.
I'm also a fan of the revolver. It doesn't throw brass. That's a lot safer for the environment.... of the shooter....
Combloc
Stop Negassing me!!!!!
Thank God you were armed!
Biggfoot44
Ultimate Member
- Aug 2, 2009
- 33,107
Just like airplane landings , any situation you and the wife walk away from unharmed was a good resolution.
Bootknife
Ultimate Member
Thanks for sharing this, Dana and I had a good AAR discussion. I must confess that I had a situation happen a few Years back while still at the shack in Croom.It was not nearly as dramatic but still unnerving. I was riding the John Deere between the two houses down by the road in the afternoon When a Gold colored Escalade pulled off the road near the mailboxes. A huge guy got out and started walking down the shoulder toward Me, I shut down the tractor and got off on the opposite side of the guy.I was thinking He was going to ask for directions when He said something like "I am gonna need Your money" ...My reply was "what?" and He repeated his demand! Shocked ,I was thinking I don't carry my Wallet when I mow...who does? Anyway, I had My Sig .380 in My RR Gene pocket and thought briefly, would it even slow this guy down? He was about 6'4 300#. I had got off the JD so it was between Us, I remember thinking He's got to come over or around the tractor. Time for thought was over and I raise my left hand and drew the Sig, I probably looked stupid like a forward Guard on the high school basketball team! When He saw the Little Sig He spun and went back up the Shoulder to the Cadilac and left.I stood there and realized what had just happened and Thanked God I had picked up that pistol when going out to Mow My 5 Acres.I had never carried before while mowing and still today Wonder Why I Did That Day! I am in Florida for the most part now , But My Ruger 9mm gets a lot of carry time. Situational Awareness is Your Friend. Glad Your story ended well and it will Help others be aware that "The Monsters are among Us"
DeadeyeJack
Supporter of Freedom
Ha ha ha. HA HA HA.
Oh boy, I almost wet myself. No woman, anywhere, in any culture, at any point in time, has listened to her husband, and not made things worse.
Do you know why women and children are loaded onto the life boats first?
So the men can have some peace and quiet to think of a solution.
DeadeyeJack
Supporter of Freedom
Steven Spielberg could not even use enough special effects to make the fantasy happen on screen.
- May 22, 2005
- 122,879
I've been thinking about this a lot since I spend so much down in that part of the world.
Is this the overlook where it occurred? Makes sense that they would target this particular one since it's on a main road, yet the overlook itself is completely obscured from the road.
You were luckier than I first thought.
Is this the overlook where it occurred? Makes sense that they would target this particular one since it's on a main road, yet the overlook itself is completely obscured from the road.
You were luckier than I first thought.
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Yes sir that exactly the place.
One of the most beautiful places I have been when you realize you are on a shear rock ledge straight up many hundreds of feet.
It's a fairly short walk from the road but completely obscured by the woods then down about 20? Stairs and into the hawks nest, kinda like a stone pit. Far enough away from the road and restrooms and gift shop that no one can see or hear and an even shorter run thru the woods to the road than the paths plus another pass in the opposite direction so someone with bad intent could have multiple escape routes..
We were very lucky.
I told my wife we are going back for a weekend sooner rather than later though, when it cools off. I won't let shitbags like that ruin places like that for us. Plus I still think it's a beautiful place and I want to ride the tram and the jet boat that we missed out on due to this incident.
One thing about all this is that now my wife's sister and fiancé want to get armed and want shooting lessons and that will cause my wife to spend more time at the range at the farm with me practicing with her sister so that's a big positive . My wife's a fine shot but everyone needs practice and I love practicing with her.
The big negative thing out of this is now she wants to take wv off the retirement living area list. She still wants to look around more in western va, cause the border must stop bad folks, lol.
Pushrod
Master Blaster
44man,
So sorry to hear about your episode. Sounds like you did everything correctly and quickly. I'm am very familiar with the place you are talking about as I used to have a place not too far from their in Braxton County and visited Hawks Nest on occasion. Sorry it spoiled your otherwise pleasant weekend. It is a shame these bad apples (to put it mildly) ruined a nice trip. I'm glad you didn't have to take it a step further (yet maybe that will be needed to discourage this type of criminal behavior). I hope this doesn't spoil your view of WV as a whole, as this type of event really isn't that prevalent here compared to other areas. It is the meth/heroin epidemic that is sparking a lot of this.
At least in this State you are permitted to arm yourself for protection. I'm very glad you did so.
If you ever want to come back, make plans for my AO near Elkins and I will show you and the missus around personally.
So sorry to hear about your episode. Sounds like you did everything correctly and quickly. I'm am very familiar with the place you are talking about as I used to have a place not too far from their in Braxton County and visited Hawks Nest on occasion. Sorry it spoiled your otherwise pleasant weekend. It is a shame these bad apples (to put it mildly) ruined a nice trip. I'm glad you didn't have to take it a step further (yet maybe that will be needed to discourage this type of criminal behavior). I hope this doesn't spoil your view of WV as a whole, as this type of event really isn't that prevalent here compared to other areas. It is the meth/heroin epidemic that is sparking a lot of this.
At least in this State you are permitted to arm yourself for protection. I'm very glad you did so.
If you ever want to come back, make plans for my AO near Elkins and I will show you and the missus around personally.
Pushrod
Master Blaster
With some of the loads out there today, there is no iffy-ness about it. It will do the job at close range when needed!
Again good job and glad everything turned out well!
