7 or 8 days to pickup?

bDp_Reaper · Mar 29, 2017

I just want to verify with those who have already picked up their firearms. It seems some people in some of the threads on here claim to have received their "Not Disapproved" email on the 7th day around 6am, at which point they're entitled to go pick up their firearms. However, the HQL class I took, as well as the gun store I went to said 8 days. The gentleman at the store said whenever I get the email but that it would be on day 8. Can anyone verify exactly when they received their email to pickup? 7th or 8th day from application(i.e. 3/22-3/29). Thanks in advance

iH8DemLibz · Mar 29, 2017

The accepted rule, for the most part, is that each store can set its own rules.

If the guy said eight days, then it's eight days.

Always best to ask before making a purchase.

danb · Mar 29, 2017

I picked mine up the same day I got the notice. The 6am wake up call reads:

Congratulations. Your application, [#xxxxxx] , to purchase a regulated firearm from [Dealer] has been Not Disapproved by the Maryland State Police. You may return to the selected firearm dealer to arrange pickup/transfer of your item during the dealer's regular business hours.

I filled out the 77r on March Y, 2017 and picked it up on March Y+7, 2017.

So assuming it was submitted the 22nd, you should get a notice 6am the 29th, and be able to pick it up.

ETA: the email also says some other stuff about the PIN you need.

I strongly suspect now with the email/77r FFLs will streamline and standardize their process to release as long as the buyer has the PIN/email confirm. The previous confusion about 7/8th day was due to poorly worded and vague language and an abundance of caution.

I very rarely says this about government changes: but the electronic 77r was a *vast*improvement over the old process, and streamlined the process a lot.

bDp_Reaper · Mar 29, 2017

iH8DemLibz said:
The accepted rule, for the most part, is that each store can set its own rules.

If the guy said eight days, then it's eight days.

Always best to ask before making a purchase.

Yeah but he only said 8 days after I said I couldn't wait for the 7 days to be up. But then afterwards he said as soon as you get the notice you can come pick it up that day. So what I just wanted to find out is when people received their pick up notice from MSP. The date I gave was just an example

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iH8DemLibz · Mar 29, 2017

MSP is sending handgun buyers notices now? Seriously, when did this start? Are they e-mailing the buyer or e-mailing the notice to the LGS who then notifies the buyer?

Been several years since I purchased a hand gun in Maryland.

redeemed.man · Mar 29, 2017

iH8DemLibz said:
MSP is sending handgun buyers notices now? Seriously, when did this start? Are they e-mailing the buyer or e-mailing the notice to the LGS who then notifies the buyer?

Been several years since I purchased a hand gun in Maryland.

Emailing the buyer. 6 am on the 7th day.

bDp_Reaper · Mar 29, 2017

iH8DemLibz said:
MSP is sending handgun buyers notices now? Seriously, when did this start? Are they e-mailing the buyer or e-mailing the notice to the LGS who then notifies the buyer?

Been several years since I purchased a hand gun in Maryland.

Yes, they have switched the whole process online. Once you pay the $10 app fee you have to wait the 7 day period from the day it's paid . From what I heard, even from the gun store, you receive an email at 6 am on the 7th day that should say "Not Disapproved" at which point you can head to the store and pick up your firearm.

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iH8DemLibz · Mar 29, 2017

Well Day-Um.

bDp_Reaper · Mar 29, 2017

Brownl345 said:
It depends. With the new system, if your projected pickup falls on Monday, it'll slide to Tuesday and 8 days. If Monday is a holiday, it slides to Tuesday for 9 days. Otherwise, it is 7 days. When you get your email, you should be able to pick up.

My 7th day would be on a Saturday, do you think it'll fall on that day or Monday. It doesn't say specifically that it's only business days.

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danb · Mar 29, 2017

iH8DemLibz said:
MSP is sending handgun buyers notices now? Seriously, when did this start? Are they e-mailing the buyer or e-mailing the notice to the LGS who then notifies the buyer?

Been several years since I purchased a hand gun in Maryland.

its all online now. No more white/yellow/red triplicate paperwork. Only the 4473 part is paper.

Fill out the 77r online (it asks for your HQL), sign electronically. You get a notice when the app is submitted, you pay the $10 online with your credit/debit, then they send you an email & PIN when you can pick it up. Then you do.

It looks to me as though the dealer has their own "portal" to view/submit transfers. They log in and put the gun info in, I assume that they get notified as well.

danb · Mar 29, 2017

I just want to add, that in my estimation the new system *IS* following the correct calculation, per the old system (see attached).

I just think that some people were confused.

If you bought on a Monday, you are picking up on a Monday. If you bought on a Saturday, you are picking up on a Sat. The day only slides for Sundays and legal holidays.

swinokur · Mar 29, 2017

it's 7 days. not business days as some incorrectly state.

the exception being Sundays or Holidays as noted

Hit and Run · Mar 29, 2017

So on my end I get a release date in my final bin associated with application once "Not disapproved." Until its reviewed it stays in my submitted bin. I have selected application before release date just to check it and noticed that I can't open or modify until release date met. Small shop so I have not done a lot of transfers but passing my observation. Seems either 7 or 8th day from date of submission, but however release date is calculated I can't act on it until that date.....

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Mark75H · Mar 29, 2017

Question to FFL's:

Do you also receive an email notification of ND/release date?

Rack&Roll · Mar 29, 2017

boundlessdyad said:
Emailing the buyer. 6 am on the 7th day.

I think you mean 6am on the 8th day, with the day you purchase/submit paperwork counting as Day #1.

notfast · Mar 29, 2017

I recently purchased something on a Saturay. Got email 7 days later on Saturday. Shop said don't come on Saturday even though you get email. I just assumed it was their policy, busy Saturday = no time for checking verifications etc.

No biggie. Went on Monday.

redeemed.man · Mar 29, 2017

Rack&Roll said:
I think you mean 6am on the 8th day, with the day you purchase/submit paperwork counting as Day #1.

Correct. The way some shops used to interpret it though would be buy on Tuesday pick up on the following Wednesday. Now you can pick up on the following Tuesday.

tjohn55 · Mar 29, 2017

FFL Manual 77R Vs Online 77R

When I purchased guns and filled out the paper 77R, I always picked up on the 8th day. I recently purchased a Shield 45 and received the "not disapproved" email from the MSP the morning of the 7th day. I went down later that day to my FFL and picked up the gun.

tj

bDp_Reaper · Mar 29, 2017

Mark75H said:
Question to FFL's:

Do you also receive an email notification of ND/release date?

I believe you're supposed to because the store won't call you. If you don't get one on 7th day you could always check the MSP site

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Rack&Roll · Mar 29, 2017

bDp_Reaper said:
I believe you're supposed to because the store won't call you. If you don't get one on 7th day you could always check the MSP site

Enough with the confusing references to "7th day"!

The day you purchase and submit paperwork is DAY 1.

On the morning of DAY 8 (usually around 6am and barring any complications or holds) the MSP sends their Not Disapproved email to you.

Please stop referring to Day 7.

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