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  • WeaponsCollector

    EXTREME GUN OWNER
    Mar 30, 2009
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    Southern MD
    Gun control freaks always seem to think the second amendment says "...the right of the people to keep and bear arms, with a permit and a fee, shall not be infringed."
     

    press1280

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    Jun 11, 2010
    7,878
    WV
    Nice video showing how inept the antis arguments against ConCarry are: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNtdP_E2AEY

    ConCarry bills' hearing can be watched here, click on judiciary: http://house.michigan.gov/htv.asp

    They are on another bill right now, to be followed by the ConCarry package. I can see several MDA members in the audience.

    Edit: They are now on the ConCarry bills. A sheriff is giving the standard BS lines, but a legislator is challenging him. Sheriff isn't doing so well :)
     

    press1280

    Ultimate Member
    Jun 11, 2010
    7,878
    WV
    They had a medical worker on who had no freaking clue how the law worked (anti of course). She thought training was needed to obtain weapons :)
     

    press1280

    Ultimate Member
    Jun 11, 2010
    7,878
    WV
    Approximate time? It's a 2+ hour video.

    Thanks,

    Yes, whole 2 plus hours all the ConCarry package.

    You have 3 different groups testifying. 1 is the group in favor, which are extremely well versed in the law and make a coherent argument. Another is the LEO & firearms trainers. They make some good arguments on paper, however, they have no answers for why the sky hasn't fallen in other ConCarry states, nor why other states (shall-issue but no training requirement) do not have issues either.
    The other group (Moms,exc.) have no grasp on the law period, and make a pure emotional, lack of facts, gun control message which is basically more guns equals more crime. All of their "facts" are from the notorious LCAV, who counts suicide, traffic accidents, and accidental shootings as "CCW killers".

    The disclosure (LEO notification) seemed to be a hot issue. But the other side could not respond to the fact that MI honors all other state permits and those individuals are not required to notify LEO (weird loophole in MI law that only residents have to notify); as well as the fact someone carrying illegally isn't required to incriminate themselves.
     

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