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McConnell shelves it.
Rep. Hudson to introduce Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act
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McConnell shelves it.
thomfantomas
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Prediction?
can they detach HR38 and vote on the nics fix alone?
I guess they could, but it's obvious with all the dems whining that it's got a better chance with than without in the senate.
thomfantomas
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When will the House vote on HR 38?
JPG
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If this passes and is signed into law some state will sue and it will be in front of the SCOTUS before any case working its way up through the normal court process.
Defense Rifle
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As of today, looks like 4 Senate Democrats (MT, WV, IN, and ND) are on board with NCCR, a 5th (MO) doesn't like NCCR but willing to vote for the bill because FixNICS is attached to it.
So we're looking at a potential 52 (GOP) + 5 (Dems) = 57 Total. Only need 3 more Dem Senators to agree to a vote on cloture if the Dems choose to filibuster (and likely one or more will).
Pressure needs to be put on these Senators.
1) Bill Nelson-D (Florida)
2) Angus King-I (Maine)
3) Bob Casey-D (PA)
4) Martin Heinrich-D (NM)
5) Tom Udall-D (NM)
6) Sherrod Brown-D (OH)
They don't all need to vote for the bill, but if some of them can be convinced to vote to advance the bill that is good enough.
Wildcard: Pressure Sen. Al Franken and Bob Menendez to resign due to scandals, then only need 58 votes for cloture on the bill.
So we're looking at a potential 52 (GOP) + 5 (Dems) = 57 Total. Only need 3 more Dem Senators to agree to a vote on cloture if the Dems choose to filibuster (and likely one or more will).
Pressure needs to be put on these Senators.
1) Bill Nelson-D (Florida)
2) Angus King-I (Maine)
3) Bob Casey-D (PA)
4) Martin Heinrich-D (NM)
5) Tom Udall-D (NM)
6) Sherrod Brown-D (OH)
They don't all need to vote for the bill, but if some of them can be convinced to vote to advance the bill that is good enough.
Wildcard: Pressure Sen. Al Franken and Bob Menendez to resign due to scandals, then only need 58 votes for cloture on the bill.
thomfantomas
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Interesting
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buellsfurn
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wasn't that Fraken that retired today ?
thomfantomas
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Conyers
buellsfurn
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ZeroCool
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Can someone give a quick rundown of what this bill means for us Marylanders?
I'm sure that it's in here somewhere but I went back 10 or so pages and nothing. I know that, originally, it was being discussed if it was a "carry anywhere, with any permit" but from my reading of the text, it appears that you need to have a home state permit to qualify for national reciprocity.
While I'm certainly excited for a potential win on a national level, it would certainly be disappointing if I can't carry in my home state while others from out of state can carry here.
Why do I have a feeling that I'm going to be disappointed...
ETA: Just so everyone knows what I'm referencing - it's the congress.gov site here.
The summary states the following:
I'm sure that it's in here somewhere but I went back 10 or so pages and nothing. I know that, originally, it was being discussed if it was a "carry anywhere, with any permit" but from my reading of the text, it appears that you need to have a home state permit to qualify for national reciprocity.
While I'm certainly excited for a potential win on a national level, it would certainly be disappointing if I can't carry in my home state while others from out of state can carry here.
Why do I have a feeling that I'm going to be disappointed...
ETA: Just so everyone knows what I'm referencing - it's the congress.gov site here.
The summary states the following:
Squaregrouper
Kragaphile
Can someone give a quick rundown of what this bill means for us Marylanders?
I'm sure that it's in here somewhere but I went back 10 or so pages and nothing. I know that, originally, it was being discussed if it was a "carry anywhere, with any permit" but from my reading of the text, it appears that you need to have a home state permit to qualify for national reciprocity.
While I'm certainly excited for a potential win on a national level, it would certainly be disappointing if I can't carry in my home state while others from out of state can carry here.
Why do I have a feeling that I'm going to be disappointed...
As written, a CCW from any state will be recognized nationally.
The reality is that even if it passes, the ensuing lawsuits will tie it up for years before it is enacted- if ever.
TheGunnyRet
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Yep, because at the rate we are going with immigration control crumbling this will be even more chaos...
Unlike the other lawsuits against state may-issue schemes (which were not overturned), overturning a law of Congress will be fast tracked.
Can someone give a quick rundown of what this bill means for us Marylanders?
I'm sure that it's in here somewhere but I went back 10 or so pages and nothing. I know that, originally, it was being discussed if it was a "carry anywhere, with any permit" but from my reading of the text, it appears that you need to have a home state permit to qualify for national reciprocity.
While I'm certainly excited for a potential win on a national level, it would certainly be disappointing if I can't carry in my home state while others from out of state can carry here.
Why do I have a feeling that I'm going to be disappointed...
ETA: Just so everyone knows what I'm referencing - it's the congress.gov site here.
The summary states the following:
No home state permit required, although when it comes to in state residents carrying on another state's permit, this is probably the weak link constitutionally.
https://projects.propublica.org/represent/votes/113/senate/1/100
Heinrich and Udall were yes votes last time
Can someone give a quick rundown of what this bill means for us Marylanders?
I'm sure that it's in here somewhere but I went back 10 or so pages and nothing. I know that, originally, it was being discussed if it was a "carry anywhere, with any permit" but from my reading of the text, it appears that you need to have a home state permit to qualify for national reciprocity.
While I'm certainly excited for a potential win on a national level, it would certainly be disappointing if I can't carry in my home state while others from out of state can carry here.
Why do I have a feeling that I'm going to be disappointed...
ETA: Just so everyone knows what I'm referencing - it's the congress.gov site here.
The summary states the following:
The text says "issued pursuant to the law of a state" That means a MD resident could carry in MD on a NR permit
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