D.C. nearly 1,900 CCW permits issued so far in 2018

GTOGUNNER · Nov 15, 2018

https://mpdc.dc.gov/sites/default/f...egistration Application(Rev0613)_fillable.pdf

Form asks No. Of Shots... don't put 13....
Don't take a greater than 10 round mag into DC

wolfwood · Nov 15, 2018

I went to George Lyons carry class and it was completely full

Stoveman · Nov 15, 2018

GTOGUNNER said:
2. You can take the classes and qualify after the initial app, DC will send you a letter giving you 45 days to take the required classes and qualify. So the true answer is before or after.

Technically true, this was a holdover from when they were May Issue so that one didn't waste $$ on training if not going to be approved.

Occam said:
So, let's say I've got a G23. Bought in MD with 10-round mags, but of course also have some 13's for it, which wouldn't ride along to DC. Are they just interested in not busting you with a >10 mag, or will they only allow registration of pistols that max out at 10?

And, as any annoying (because, I must be getting annoying, here) follow up thought: what happens when you buy another piece a year later and want to modify your list of registered items? I presume there's an only slightly miserable way to do that? Thx

I believe a G23 with a 10 round mag would be GTG but IANAL.

Anytime you want to carry an additional firearm you need to register it and get another card just like the first time. A quick trip to MPD HQ, not terrible.

Meho1277 · Nov 15, 2018

The DC law states, that you cannot have more magazines than to load your firearm twice, no more than 20 rounds, this means, you can have higher capacity magazines, but you can only have 20 rounds on your person. This could be 12 and 8,
15 and 5, or 10 and 10, either way, no more than 20.

Biggfoot44 · Nov 15, 2018

Ah , no . No more than 10rd Magazines And only one reload And no more than 20rds .

What with the first two , not always possible to get up to 20 .

sbmike · Nov 15, 2018

Has anyone sent Frosh (or Hogan) a list of all the people killed or shot by law-abiding DC permit holders? Or all the "blood in the streets" from all these guns being carried by law abiding citizens?
On the opposite side, has anyone asked Frosh or Hogan how many law abiding citizens (designated victims) have been shot by criminals in possession of illegal handguns in that same period of time?
Of course it won't matter to either one of them, but it never hurts to shove it in their faces every now and then.

Stoveman · Nov 15, 2018

Meho1277 said:
The DC law states, that you cannot have more magazines than to load your firearm twice, no more than 20 rounds, this means, you can have higher capacity magazines, but you can only have 20 rounds on your person. This could be 12 and 8,
15 and 5, or 10 and 10, either way, no more than 20.

Wrong answer. No offense.

Biggfoot44 said:
Ah , no . No more than 10rd Magazines And only one reload And no more than 20rds .

What with the first two , not always possible to get up to 20 .

Correct answer.

And remember that if you carry a 10 rounder with one in the pipe the reload must be backed down one.

Biggfoot44 · Nov 15, 2018

So that would be a J Frame, a speedloader, and a G29 for the Win !

GTOGUNNER · Nov 15, 2018

No need to go to DC for additional Gun Registration Cards, send the form and 13 dollar check made out to the DC Treasurer, mail to MPDC, permit registration office and they will mail it to you.
(The form says "hand carried" but that is not required.)

Meho1277 · Nov 15, 2018

24-2343. Ammunition Carried by Licensee. 2343.1 A person issued a concealed carry license by the Chief, while carrying the pistol, shall not carry more ammunition than is required to fully load the pistol twice, and in no event shall that amount be greater than twenty (20) rounds of ammunition
RIGHT ANSWER

swinokur · Nov 15, 2018

The language of the reg would make me believe you can carry a pistol that would carry more than 10 rounds, as long as you use a legal 10 round mag, making the gun “fully loaded” with 10 round mags.

The key phrase IMO is “fully load”

ETA changed to agree with Stovemans post

IANAL

Meho1277 · Nov 15, 2018

I stand corrected, high capacity mags, more than 10 are prohibited.
When I am mistaken, I will be the first to admit it.

SCV/SAR Patriot · Nov 15, 2018

How nice of them to limit rounds for law abiding permit holders but not for the criminals. SMH Then again it’s better than what Murderland offers. LOL

welder516 · Nov 15, 2018

Meho1277 said:
I stand corrected, high capacity mags, more than 10 are prohibited.
When I am mistaken, I will be the first to admit it.

You just might be the first person in MDS history to admit it ...

swinokur · Nov 15, 2018

Nah, I do it all the time

LOL

Jake4U · Nov 15, 2018

OK, any DC law and range qualification instructors recommended by the hive?

swinokur · Nov 15, 2018

PM MDS member Cypherpunk.

DC certified instructor

swinokur · Nov 15, 2018

In the case of a G23 or a more than a 10 round pistol, I suppose if all you carried were 10 round mags, it would be considered fully loaded.

So I think Stoveman is correct. If you carry 10 round mags the gun is fully loaded if used with a 10 round mag.

Jake4U · Nov 15, 2018

swinokur said:
PM MDS member Cypherpunk.

DC certified instructor

Thanks

jbrown50 · Nov 15, 2018

swinokur said:
In the case of a G23 or a more than a 10 round pistol, I suppose if all you carried were 10 round mags, it would be considered fully loaded.

So I think Stoveman is correct. If you carry 10 round mags the gun is fully loaded if used with a 10 round mag.

Yes.

Possession of any magazine that holds more than 10 rounds is illegal in DC. It doesn't matter whether it's for concealed carry or registration/ownership. Fully loaded in DC's mindset does not exceed 10 + 1.

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