That’s the problem.. Lack of individual responsibility for following their first responsibility to the constitution...
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That’s the problem.. Lack of individual responsibility for following their first responsibility to the constitution...
Here is what I SAW. We were told we could go over to the “other“side one time and cross the police line marked by police tape. If we crossed the line to get back to “our” side we would be arrested. Rack crossed over the line AND WAS ARRESTED BEFORE HE RECROSSED THE LINE. However some of the NRA protesters came over to our side to converse with us so they didn’t have to shout over a 35 ft no mans line. Here’s where it gets real dicey, they were escorted by police back over to their side with no arrests. So we now have two problems. 1.separate but equal” sides, that didn’t go over to well in the Supreme Court if my memory serves me well and 2. arresting someone for an “illegal “action that they had NOT yet committed. OUR civil rights were violated by forcing us “ to the back of the bus” and not treating the crossing of the arbitrary line equally.
Blacksmith101
Grumpy Old Man
- Jun 22, 2012
- 22,262
Next time pack up everything and move to the other side to continue the individual dialogs. The cops heads would explode.
Good summary. Wondering if some higher-up was watching a live video feed from the local law enforcement and immediately called in for R&R's arrest when he was seen crossing over to the other side. As you said, they jumped the gun on the field rule that they tried to put in place.
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There was a FCPD camera on a very tall telescoping pole across from the NRA guarded by two FCPD motormen. I'm sure the entire event was being fed back to the CP
JPG
Ultimate Member
I think it’s sad FCPD is probably sitting around congratulating themselves on what a great job they did and not the least bit concerned they trampled on the 1A
ShafTed
Ultimate Member
They are being congratulated by the higher-ups because that is PRECISELY the job they were told to do.
They are being congratulated by the higher-ups because that is PRECISELY the job they were told to do.
We are not done.
If there is a battle somewhere in America to prevent the police from creating political cattle pens for opposing groups.... well then, let that battle be in Fairfax County.
With a little search help, I will soon have a lawyer that wants to take my case to make the argument that the police CANNOT create NO-GO ZONES in otherwise peaceful public spaces. If police ordered Americans to never leave their homes to achieve "high levels of safety" for themselves and others, that would be a "success", but then America is long gone.
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Is there photographs or video of his hypocritic and his goon squad ?
I have carried this post over from this “NRA Arrest” thread to the “NRA March” thread.
This thread’s best use is to mount a legal battle to insure that Patriots can move freely at peaceful demonstrations!
Stay strong, brother! We got your six!
Outerlimits
Active Member
R&R are you looking for an Lawyer pro bono? If not, is their some way that folks that would like to contribute to a defense fund for you could do that?
They do not have to follow unconstitutional orders, actually they are obligated to not do so.
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Innocence is getting expensive.
Just curious how much time they are allowed to think this through since this line was fairly fluid. Do not pass go, do not collect $200, go directly to arrest who I say. Just a thought. However, not being held personally responsible for their actions (lawsuit) and following the order will not get you fired, Ones hand is forced to follow all orders, no thinking necessary.
Imagine if every innocent citizen walking down the street was arrested ... Twice! Again Innocence is becoming expensive. Funny thing is that if we donate to Racks defense we are helping both sides (taxes).
This seems to be political as opposed to a legal safety concern from an emergency declared a week before the event. If this type case is lost, or plaintiff does not show for some reason, .gov will save quite a bit of political capital and cash, stay healthy/ safe. But ... ICBWrong.
I am pleased to tell you that after being released from police custody outside the NRA, Cypherpunk handed me $100 to start my legal defense the moment I finished my remarks for some assembled cameras.
The Camp Freedom Defense Fund has been jumpstarted with $100!
Thank you Cypherpunk so much. I am honored to know that folks want to help. For at least the next week, announcing a pledge here keeps the drive alive. Later, we can announce which trusted MDS member can be the trustee of this generosity and collect donations for me.
My arrest subjects me to A CRIMINAL COURT TRIAL IN FAIRFAX COUNTY DISTRICT COURT on Tuesday, August 28, at 9:30am. I have the opportunity to subpoena witnesses on my behalf--in writing--by August 18, so those of you who heard the Fairfax PD's ever-changing declarations of what their "police line" meant, please keep that morning open to help me (us) if you are able.
I have often asked you for prayers, and to hold me up when I feel that I am about to buckle. You've never let me fall.
Can you help me with this new hill to climb....
Ronan
3D Printing Guru
Thats just so it looks nice on paper.
Just show me where/how to donate and I'm in for $100:
Thank you so much.
I have my legal fund trustee! Cypherpunk is the ideal person to do this as he is widely recognized for his work at MSI.
I will post up details shortly.
Thank you Cypherpunk!
