Go Back   Maryland Shooters > Gun Rights and Legislation > National 2A Issues
Don't Have An Account? Register Here

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old May 2nd, 2021, 10:02 AM #461
delaware_export delaware_export is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 1,319
delaware_export delaware_export is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 1,319
Talking with folks, gun folks, but not lawyers, the idea of discussing the states like NY as a case about restrictions is not accurate.

It is about 100% prohibition of ANY carry by the people. Common, law abiding citizens. Touching the 14th amendment, iirc.

Before discussing reasonable regulation, maybe the focus should be exclusively on the fact that .gov is full on prohibition. Push for shall issue first.

Then, when .gov actually try’s to use “restrictions” to effectively prohibit carry attack back again.

$1mil to apply
No carry within 20miles of a sensitive place
10year review prior to a permit valid for 1 year

But those are points for argument later. Back to waiting ...
delaware_export is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 3rd, 2021, 07:20 AM #462
Kharn Kharn is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Hazzard County
Posts: 3,270
Kharn Kharn is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Hazzard County
Posts: 3,270
And for completely out of left field: Regulate handgun carry to prevent blacks from being shot by LEOs

Quote:
A decision by the Supreme Court that would lift existing restrictions or licensing requirements for publicly carrying handguns will only exacerbate this dynamic wherein police disproportionately perceive people of color to be armed...

...To address police violence, the court should find an opportunity to reassess its use-of-force precedent, given the evidence of the current standard's failure to protect people, particularly people of color, from unnecessary police violence. And while it may seem unrelated, to address police violence, the court should also allow cities and states to continue to regulate handguns in public...
Kharn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 3rd, 2021, 07:34 AM #463
Biggfoot44's Avatar
Biggfoot44 Biggfoot44 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 22,850
Biggfoot44 Biggfoot44 is offline
Senior Member
Biggfoot44's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 22,850
I skipped the last 6 pages , any actual developements ?
Biggfoot44 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 3rd, 2021, 07:42 AM #464
Raineman's Avatar
Raineman Raineman is offline
On the 3rd box
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Eldersburg
Posts: 2,764
Raineman Raineman is offline
On the 3rd box
Raineman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Eldersburg
Posts: 2,764
Quote:
Originally Posted by Biggfoot44 View Post
I skipped the last 6 pages ,
I wish I had. I fell asleep at my desk more than a few times.
__________________
"Blow it out your well trained ass."--teratos


"Lifes way too short not to laugh. If you think it is a joke, its a joke. If you think it was serious, It probably was a joke, which I in turn... think is really funny. Bobbie Velvet MWC
Raineman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 3rd, 2021, 08:52 AM #465
Kharn Kharn is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Hazzard County
Posts: 3,270
Kharn Kharn is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Hazzard County
Posts: 3,270
Two weeks months until NYSRPA's merits brief is due, so keep napping unless you want to enjoy the frantic musings of any liberal with five fingers.
Kharn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 3rd, 2021, 10:06 AM #466
JMangle's Avatar
JMangle JMangle is offline
Handsome Engineer
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Mississippi
Posts: 807
JMangle JMangle is offline
Handsome Engineer
JMangle's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Mississippi
Posts: 807
That's a special type of racism known as "white paternalism." That is to say that a white person derives power believing that they are protecting minorities, and thus feels morally justified. Being a Northerner living in the Deep South (and loving museums and history), so much of slavery was 'justified' by a similar thought process that blacks needed to be protected by their masters.

That idiot has the savior mindset that by limiting the freedoms of the law abiding, he can help the innocent. With all the insanity through which we've lived in the past few years, one of the few good things is that minority gun ownership has been on the rise. Seeing as so much gun control here in the South was about keeping blacks from protecting themselves with guns, it's a good thing that minorities have armed up to protect themselves against anarchy and bucked the historic trend.

He's conflating issues at will to attempt to make a nonsensical argument.

My wife is a minority, and has experienced discrimination. She figured out very quickly that it is all the more reason to be armed.
JMangle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 11th, 2021, 08:57 AM #467
press1280 press1280 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: WV
Posts: 5,827
press1280 press1280 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: WV
Posts: 5,827
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kharn View Post
Two weeks months until NYSRPA's merits brief is due, so keep napping unless you want to enjoy the frantic musings of any liberal with five fingers.
Keep your eyes and ears open for any wind of them looking to moot the case. I'll say that I do not think they will try to do this, but if they try to do this look for it to happen before oral arguments, just like the previous NYSRPA case.
press1280 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 11th, 2021, 12:27 PM #468
krucam's Avatar
krucam krucam is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: 3rd Rock from the Sun...DFW, TX
Posts: 8,431
krucam krucam is offline
Senior Member
krucam's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: 3rd Rock from the Sun...DFW, TX
Posts: 8,431
Petitioners NYSRPA have requested an extension for filing their initial Brief to July 2nd

https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketP...st%20FINAL.pdf

Full docket
https://www.supremecourt.gov/search....ic/20-843.html
__________________
Mark C.

Dallas/Ft Worth, TX

Post McDonald Second Amendment Cases/Links HERE
krucam is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 11th, 2021, 12:45 PM #469
Allen65 Allen65 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Anne Arundel County
Posts: 3,369
Allen65 Allen65 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Anne Arundel County
Posts: 3,369
Quote:
Originally Posted by press1280 View Post
Keep your eyes and ears open for any wind of them looking to moot the case. I'll say that I do not think they will try to do this, but if they try to do this look for it to happen before oral arguments, just like the previous NYSRPA case.
I'm not sure NY could moot this one because IIRC the plaintiffs smartly included issues of past violations as well as the present, ongoing violations of rights and due process. So changing the law won't address redress for past wrongs.
Allen65 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 11th, 2021, 01:42 PM #470
press1280 press1280 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: WV
Posts: 5,827
press1280 press1280 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: WV
Posts: 5,827
Quote:
Originally Posted by Allen65 View Post
I'm not sure NY could moot this one because IIRC the plaintiffs smartly included issues of past violations as well as the present, ongoing violations of rights and due process. So changing the law won't address redress for past wrongs.
Im assuming theyd still be liable for fees at that point, but that they could still technically avoid review just like the previous case.
press1280 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

  Home Page > Forum List > Gun Rights and Legislation > National 2A Issues


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 2 (1 members and 1 guests)
motorcoachdoug
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:34 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
2021, Congregate Media, LP Privacy Policy Terms of Service