Gun safety tips from your doctor???

Jim12 · Jul 28, 2018

teratos said:
I've seen this particular line several times. Not a viable argument. If your doctor recommends that you keep your firearms locked, ammunition separate, out of reach of children etc. there is no liability if you don't do that. It's in you.

Yes, for the most part. But some doctor somewhere down the line is going to go all-expert and suggest something that goes sideways. Further, what about a doctor who thinks his patient is a little "odd," then after the profession has assumed liability for counseling on gun safety, recommends as you say rather than going farther (e.g. to 1302 him), then the oddball goes whacko and commits a crime? The plaintiffs will go after the deep pockets, e.g. the doctor. The first several cases will go nowhere, but the facts and arguments will evolve. That's how tort law evolves.

teratos · Jul 28, 2018

Jim12 said:
Yes, for the most part. But some doctor somewhere down the line is going to go all-expert and suggest something that goes sideways. Further, what about a doctor who thinks his patient is a little "odd," then after the profession has assumed liability for counseling on gun safety, recommends as you say rather than going farther (e.g. to 1302 him), then the oddball goes whacko and commits a crime? The plaintiffs will go after the deep pockets, e.g. the doctor. The first several cases will go nowhere, but the facts and arguments will evolve. That's how tort law evolves.

Just what I need....more liability. Frankly, if I had to do it over, I would not be a doc.

Bertfish · Jul 28, 2018

These threads are almost as common as Hogan threads anymore

Huckleberry · Jul 28, 2018

teratos said:
Just what I need....more liability. Frankly, if I had to do it over, I would not be a doc.

With your hair, definitely a “head model” for those barbershop styling posters and pictures

And your success with marketing and modeling hair care products would have been amazing.

teratos · Jul 28, 2018

Huckleberry said:
With your hair, definitely a “head model” for those barbershop styling posters and pictures

And your success with marketing and modeling hair care products would have been amazing.

LOL. Maybe it isn’t too late!!!

rbird7282 · Jul 28, 2018

If your doctor starts asking about anything gun related (unless they’re asking to go shoot), ask them do they practice medicine responsibly? Start telling them ways to avoid killing patients, after all it’s for the greater good. Besides, doctors kill more patients every year due to malpractice than people are killed with guns every year in the US.

(I am not railing on doctors here just pointing out statistics.)

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Glaron · Jul 28, 2018

Id rather have ladder safety laws... I only hurt my self in my home after 15 years with improper ladder use. :rolleyes:

Blacksmith101 · Jul 28, 2018

If a doctor engages me about guns we will have a thorough discussion of his/her qualifications versus mine on the subject and I will end with inviting them to the range so I can instruct them and give them an opportunity to safely experience the shooting sports.

teratos · Jul 28, 2018

Blacksmith101 said:
If a doctor engages me about guns we will have a thorough discussion of his/her qualifications versus mine on the subject and I will end with inviting them to the range so I can instruct them and give them an opportunity to safely experience the shooting sports.

Let’s go. You covering ammo????

EL1227 · Jul 28, 2018

Gun safety tips from your doctor ...

NOT doing this would the only doctor's medical advice that would make sense ... :innocent0

Woman concealed loaded gun in vagina

New Jersey man hides stolen .25-caliber gun in his anal cavity

teratos · Jul 28, 2018

EL1227 said:
NOT doing this would the only doctor's medical advice that would make sense ...

Woman concealed loaded gun in vagina

New Jersey man hides stolen .25-caliber gun in his anal cavity

As a medical student I assisted in a surgery where a .25 auto was surgically removed from a rectum. There was one on the chamber.

Boondock Saint · Jul 28, 2018

teratos said:
As a medical student I assisted in a surgery where a .25 auto was surgically removed from a rectum. There was one on the chamber.

Now that's a Saturday Night Special...

Blacksmith101 · Jul 29, 2018

teratos said:
Let’s go. You covering ammo????

You have to lecture me first Doc, but for a look at your hair I'll cover the ammo and bring along my manly handgun for you to try. The range is in Quarryville PA let me know when you would like to get together and what you like to shoot via PM.

Mr. Ed · Jul 29, 2018

teratos said:
As a medical student I assisted in a surgery where a .25 auto was surgically removed from a rectum. There was one on the chamber.

That's not what they mean by Wear and Carry. He's doing it wrong. It's IWB, not inside the sphincter. :sad20:

Out of curiosity, did the procedure involve a speculum, or was it actual surgery?

teratos · Jul 29, 2018

Blacksmith101 said:
You have to lecture me first Doc, but for a look at your hair I'll cover the ammo and bring along my manly handgun for you to try. The range is in Quarryville PA let me know when you would like to get together and what you like to shoot via PM.

I have ammo and manly handguns. Well, my wife has manly handguns she lets me use. Quarryville has a 500 yd range, no? Would be fun to shoot with you.

Mr. Ed said:
That's not what they mean by Wear and Carry. He's doing it wrong. It's IWB, not inside the sphincter.

Out of curiosity, did the procedure involve a speculum, or was it actual surgery?

It was an actual surgery. Back story is I did my obstetrics rotation in Detroit. I was living in a hotel and bored to tears. Did not like obstetrics so hung around the ER when I could. They let me sew up wounds, put in lines, do spinal taps etc. Police brought a guy in. Convicted felon, so when he realized capture was imminent he put his .25 up his ass. X-ray confirmed a round in the chamber, so abdomen was opened to get the gun out. It was the safest way to go. I held retractors.

Docster · Jul 29, 2018

Huckleberry said:
Talking to your doctor about your guns makes as much sense as talking to your LGS about your medical condition.

Or talking to your priest about marital issues... :lol2:

teratos · Jul 29, 2018

Docster said:
Or talking to your priest about marital issues...

Very true.

Squaregrouper · Jul 29, 2018

teratos said:
As a medical student I assisted in a surgery where a .25 auto was surgically removed from a rectum. There was one on the chamber.

teratos said:
I have ammo and manly handguns. Well, my wife has manly handguns she lets me use. Quarryville has a 500 yd range, no? Would be fun to shoot with you.

It was an actual surgery. Back story is I did my obstetrics rotation in Detroit. I was living in a hotel and bored to tears. Did not like obstetrics so hung around the ER when I could. They let me sew up wounds, put in lines, do spinal taps etc. Police brought a guy in. Convicted felon, so when he realized capture was imminent he put his .25 up his ass. X-ray confirmed a round in the chamber, so abdomen was opened to get the gun out. It was the safest way to go. I held retractors.

Was it per chance at DMC and involved a Taurus flip top .25ACP?
If so, that was an embarrassing night.

Docster · Jul 29, 2018

Occam said:
But what if someone tries to make the case that you SHOULD have recommended against driving/golfing/sushi-making-with-knives and didn't? Are you obliged to understand every possible risky activity and recommend against all of them, or can you insulate yourself just by saying, "You're not up to many risky activities any more, so don't do risky things."

As it is now, patients can sign a consent form stating their understanding of possible complications from surgery and medications yet go on to a lawsuit when one of those complications, that they acknowledged and agreed could happen, occurs to them. The insurance companys and patients are very willing to accept a settlement and the malpractice lawyers won't charge if they don't win. Facts, agreements to accept known risks, personal responsibility, etc. have little to do with the end result- gaining a monetary payout by any means necessary

teratos · Jul 29, 2018

Docster said:
As it is now, patients can sign a consent form stating their understanding of possible complications from surgery and medications yet go on to a lawsuit when one of those complications, that they acknowledged and agreed could happen, occurs to them. The insurance companys and patients are very willing to accept a settlement and the malpractice lawyers won't charge if they don't win. Facts, agreements to accept known risks, personal responsibility, etc. have little to do with the end result- gaining a monetary payout by any means necessary

Well stated, sir.

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