mtm1974
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Only 11 Days to Christmas and 18 Days until another online system! Maybe we will have a Xmas miracle and the system will work as designed!
i assume that is what will happen. the portal should only give back asterisks so what you type isn't visible.That would kind of be like giving each bank teller and grocery store clerk your Debit/ATM PIN.
I hope you enter it yourself rather than giving the code to the FFL
Really? You are complaining about the requirement of an email address? This is one reason lawmakers and public officials don't take the 2A community serious. You will complain about anything.... just to complain. There is no perfect fix to this screwed up system Maryland has in place. But this system will drastically save time. When people were waiting six months for an approval and had no idea where their application stood, they were emailing the msp constantly. They didn't mind giving an email then. This system is designed to prevent any further debacles like the background check delays. They have made hundreds of other improvements as well. I am the first one to complain when the MSP is doing something stupid. But this may be the best thing that has ever been developed for the Licensing Division. I do see this opening up doors for the 2A community. Especially on the 7 day wait and one gun a month rule. But come on. Are you really complaining about giving an email address?
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no it's because they used to mail everything. faxes and the Internet changed that. Like many other things, laws don't keep up with technology
IF i own 10 guns, what is one more gonna do to help me cool down?
As far as the waiting period: Anything over the mandatory 7-8 day wait is NOT Maryland LAW! Please, do NOT blame this on the State. Maryland Law allows the dealer to release after the mandatory wait. If you have a handgun waiting longer than that, you picked the wrong dealer.
How is this helping One Gun a Month?
As far as the waiting period: Anything over the mandatory 7-8 day wait is NOT Maryland LAW! Please, do NOT blame this on the State. Maryland Law allows the dealer to release after the mandatory wait. If you have a handgun waiting longer than that, you picked the wrong dealer.
How is this helping One Gun a Month?
Sort of incorrect. The reason so many dealers didn't do timely release during the surge of 2013 was LIABILITY. The MLFDA filed a lawsuit to allow timely release. MSP was forced to admit that in the event a prohibited person was sold a firearm the FFL would not be charged with releasing a firearm prior to the completion of a 77R. Some dealers where doing a linited timely release to Law Enforcement, frequent customers, and those with a copy of a Not Dissaporoved 77R dated within the previous 90 days. Once MSP admitted and accepted liabilty for firearms released during their failure to timely process paperwork within the MD 7 day waiting period most dealers began timely releaser after 7 days.
Prior to the lawsuit and this finding MSP LD informed dealers that they would be charged in the event of a regulated firearm being released to a prohibited person.
Just what is NOT correct? Does the Law require dealers to hold the gun or NOT!
Highlighted MOST, so you do agree that NOT all dealers did in the past or do now. So I stand on my statement, If your dealer does NOT release per the law, it's on him. The law is / was clear, there is and never was a requirement for the dealer to wait on the MSP.
Who filed that Lawsuit?
Just what is NOT correct? Does the Law require dealers to hold the gun or NOT!
Highlighted MOST, so you do agree that NOT all dealers did in the past or do now. So I stand on my statement, If your dealer does NOT release per the law, it's on him. The law is / was clear, there is and never was a requirement for the dealer to wait on the MSP.
Who filed that Lawsuit?
Just what is NOT correct? Does the Law require dealers to hold the gun or NOT!
Highlighted MOST, so you do agree that NOT all dealers did in the past or do now. So I stand on my statement, If your dealer does NOT release per the law, it's on him. The law is / was clear, there is and never was a requirement for the dealer to wait on the MSP.
Who filed that Lawsuit?
Lets all get real for a moment. If you think this system was designed to make it easier, more efficient for us you are sadly mistaken. This is a way to more efficiently track people's purchases. They are lost with all the paper 77Rs and couldn't possibly track all of them. Half of them are probably lost or damaged. Now they will have everyone's email addresses. Something they didnt have before. You can call it "tin hat" if you want but remember, they are " the government". Sort of makes that HPRB sign in sheet look insignificant dont it?
As far as the waiting period: Anything over the mandatory 7-8 day wait is NOT Maryland LAW! Please, do NOT blame this on the State. Maryland Law allows the dealer to release after the mandatory wait. If you have a handgun waiting longer than that, you picked the wrong dealer.
How is this helping One Gun a Month?
So, this will effect anyone who will be buying a handgun or lower after 1 Jan 2017. Buyer will log into MSP web sight to start 77r. You provide info for the same parts of forms you fill out today. You will need a valid email address. Once you complete your part of form you will get a code emailed to you. You bring that code to FFL. FFL will open application and auto populate 77r form with pulled down info from your data (FFL will use that code you were emailed). FFL qa's answers and corrects some items if needed. Ex wrong choice in sales type... FFL adds in info on weapon being bought and other info FFL normally enters on 77r. FFL then turns computer over to you to pay $10.00 MSP fee. You will need a credit card for that or some arrangement with FFL if you don't have a credit card. FFL submits 77r electronically and if all goes well you pick up weapon after 7 day waiting period like normal
Take aways:
- buyer starts process online
- buyer needs email address
- buyer pays MSP 10.00 fee directly and then what ever FFL charges for transfer direct to FFL given buying situation.
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