Cz27 with Suppressor barrel

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  • BigDaddy

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    Rumored to have been used at concentration camps for the quiet execution of prisoners


    Fascinating pistol.

    Quiet executions at a concentration camp is a stretch, were the gas chambers too loud?
     

    Oldcarjunkie

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    Fascinating pistol.

    Quiet executions at a concentration camp is a stretch, were the gas chambers too loud?


    Not sure why that is just what i read online in the Cz forum. Dosnt mean its true, again Just a rumor. Feel free to dig on the net and prove it right or wrong. Id love to hear more about this pistol as im still trying to find more info on it.


    here is what I had found.
    Offline miguel
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    Re: CZ 27 w/extended barrel for silencer
    « Reply #2 on: April 24, 2010, 12:47:46 PM »
    There were 5000 pieces of this gun made with the silencer, so it is relatively rare.

    There is a picture of the gun with silencer:

    As I have read somewhere, this gun was used in concentration camp in Buchenwald for the silent execution of prisoners. Prisoner was told, that he have to pass the medical investigation, he was locked in the small room and there he was executed from the small window... The silencer was used to prevent disturbance between other prisoners... It is a sad part of history
     

    Oldcarjunkie

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    Also found this that Supports the shootings but thus far havent read about the pistol as of yet..


    http://isurvived.org/Lustig_Oliver-CCDictionary/CCD-05_FG.html
    Genickschuss



    The methods of extermination were worked out and put into practice in concentration camps after thorough analyses made in cold blood with Nazi meticulousness. They attained their climax at Birkenau. There, the gas chambers, when working at maximum capacity, could serve for asphyxiating 9.300 men in twenty-four hours. That procedure, validated and commended by Himmler himself, could not be put in practice in all of the thousand of camps scattered throughout the Reich. Consequently, a wide range of other methods were devised to exterminate the detainees. The most widespread, among them, used in all smaller or larger camps was shooting in the nape of the neck, Genickschuss.

    The method was described by its most reputed expert, Standartenführer, Anton Kaidl, the former commander of the Sachsenhausen concentration camp: "The mass shooting of war prisoners was done in a special room concealed as a consulting room, with a height measuring device and a sight-investigation board. The SS-men were dressed as physicians, wearing doctor's smocks. While, they feigned measuring the detainee'' height, the detainee was shot in the nape of the neck through an orifice in the measuring plank.


    Therefore, at Buchenwald and Sachsenhausen Genickschuss, shooting in the nape of the neck was done almost similarly. The exchange of experience had proved profitable At Dachau the procedure was carried out differently, as can be inferred from the recollections of Dr. Karl Kürich, a former state prisoner. "In the middle of a room there was a hollow covered with a grate. The victim had to undress, get into the hollow, bend and then he was shot in the nape of the neck. When mass executions were made twelve people had to enter that room, kneel, certainly, after they had undressed... and then they received a bullet in their heads."







    https://laststandonzombieisland.com/tag/cz-27-suppressor/


    While some .32ACP is spicy enough to be supersonic, the Germans had a run of “X” headstamped 7.65 Browning rounds made by Geco and DWM Berlin-Borsigwalde which were suitably subsonic for use in these guns. Coupled with a very large baffle can, they were likely very quiet indeed.

    According to Czech sources, some 5000 of these guns were ordered in September 1944 (OKH Wa JRu /Wu.G.Z G2-0161-0121 IV 44) and about 4220 were delivered. While some claim they were meant to be used in concentration camps, it is more likely they were intended for commando operations such as those run by Skorzeny which were increasingly popular in the late stages of the war (remember he went into the Ardennes with a unit illegally dressed as U.S. Army MPs in December of that very year).

    Another likely use for these guns was in “stay behind” operations by Werwolf resistance units.

    A silenced pistol (possibly a CZ27?) was used by an SS hit team in Unternehmen Karneval to assassinate Burgomeister Openhoff after Aachen fell to the Allies in 1945, arguably one of the only documented operations undertaken by Werwolf-style units (though they were parachuted in behind the Allied lines and not overrun in this case).

    While they were not fielded in great numbers before the conflict ended, there is some rumor that intelligence agencies on both sides of the Iron Curtain used inherited examples of these pistols throughout the Cold War– with a few even popping up in North Korea of all places. After all, what is more “sterile” and deniable than a German contract Czech-made pistol that both East and West captured at the tail end of WWII and takes .32ACP, which is commonly encountered in even the most exotic third world country?
     
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