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Old December 19th, 2007, 02:42 PM #21
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Oh ok, I thought a 3 ring binder wasn't good enough...I thought they wanted a more permanent binding
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Care to explain that form to me? Description and non-liscensee are obvious, but receipt and disposition...

Is receipt when you take possession and from whom you took possession? And then disposition when you sell the weapon and to whom?
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Affirmative on both counts.

Also, if you transfer the firearm temporarily to someone (such as a gunsmith, pawnbroker, gun store for consignment, etc.)
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Affirmative on both counts.

Also, if you transfer the firearm temporarily to someone (such as a gunsmith, pawnbroker, gun store for consignment, etc.)
Sorry, I'm dense. You have to record it if you give your C&R firearms to a gunsmith to service?
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From ATF's website.
http://www.atf.treas.gov/firearms/faq/faq2.htm
(E1) What is a "bound book?"
A "bound book" is a permanently bound book or an orderly arrangement of loose-leaf pages which must be maintained on the business premises. The format must follow that prescribed in the regulations, and the pages must be numbered consecutively.

You do not have to turn in your records to ATF when you end your C&R license. I even believe you don't even have to keep these records after it expires. I am awaiting a determination from ATF and will post the answer.

The only firearms you log into your "Bound Book" are C&R firearms that were acquired or disposed of after you received your license. You do not log non-C&R guns.

My understanding is that even if you don't use your license to purchase a C&R gun you are still required to log it in your book. For example: Say you buy a WWII Nazi marked Walter P38 from a MD gun dealer. You really don't need to show the dealer your license because there will be no benefit to you. You will still have to wait the 7 days and can not buy more than one regulated gun per month (unless your a MD designated collector-then you only wait 7 days). My understanding is that you are still required to log in the gun in your bound book.
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Sorry, I'm dense. You have to record it if you give your C&R firearms to a gunsmith to service?
As I understand it, yes if it stays overnight.
See, if it stays overnight the gunsmith has to record it in his/her bound book and then back out again when you pick it up and whenever two FFLs do a temporary transfer to each other they both have to record the acquisitions/dispositions.
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Has anyone gotten a C&R from Baltimore city's CLEO approved? I dont think the ATF would be the problem.
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Has anyone gotten a C&R from Baltimore city's CLEO approved? I dont think the ATF would be the problem.
A C&R is a federal license from the BATFE, baltimore city CLEO has no say as I understand it unless they know of a reason not to issue one.
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As I recall, the documents sent to the CLEO are for notification purposes only. They have no say in whether you get the C&R as long as there are no legal issues (prior criminal/mental health history by the applicant or perhaps another resident which might create a safety issue).

I looked upon the notification to local CLEO as a heads up to them that there is a location (business, residence) where there may be a “quantity” of firearms present (think burglar alarm calls?).

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I looked upon the notification to local CLEO as a heads up to them that there is a location (business, residence) where there may be a “quantity” of firearms present (think burglar alarm calls?).

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Think New Orleans style weapons seizure?
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