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Old February 1st, 2009, 10:02 AM #11
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I'd like to know what "armor piercing" ammo is too.

Also, clarify in the Machine Gun section that you still have to go through ATF tax stamp, fingerprints and paperwork for C&R machine guns. After you get your tax stamp and ATF paperwork, can you have the machine gun shipped to your place of collecting?
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Old February 1st, 2009, 10:12 AM #12
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i thought you had a video for this
Billy Mays will have one out soon.

Good job coinboy! Now we can point to this post for all those C&R questions that come up from time to time.
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I'm not a lawyer, but if I remember correctly, "armor piercing" ammo must say it is such on the box to count...for example some of the .50 BMG rounds available that say "armor piercing incendiary" or "armor piercing incendiary tracer". I'll have to go back and re-read to double check.
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I have an old round of .30-06 stamped Lake City 1952 that had a black tip and is strongly attracted to magnets. I was told by the guy I bought it from it was "armor piercing". I bought it as a novelty for $0.50 or something.
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Do you think getting a Maryland collectors license is worth it? I personally want to stay off the states radar if I can help it. The C&R allows me access to as many deals.
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Yes, I think every gun owner in MD should have it. If you ever bought any gun in MD then they already got your infrmation, especially if you have the stupid firearms purchasing card.
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Thanks coinboy, I was going to go for it. Just don't like being on the BIG radar screen. My stepson's a county cop and gave me the same advice. Is it really only a month turnaround? I've heard up to 3months.
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Thanks coinboy, I was going to go for it. Just don't like being on the BIG radar screen. My stepson's a county cop and gave me the same advice. Is it really only a month turnaround? I've heard up to 3months.
Mine took three weeks but that was long ago. I don't know what the wait is now.
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Armor piercing ammo

This needs to be cleared up, armor piercing ammo like .50 BMG and steel core 30-06 or other rifle only ammo is generally not what has to be recorded in the bound book, it is just the armor piercing ammo for handguns or that can be used in handguns that they also classified as "armor piercing".

This is the definition:
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(B) The term "armor piercing ammunition" means

(i) a projectile or projectile core which may be used in a handgun and which is constructed entirely (excluding the presence of traces of other substances) from one or a combination of tungsten alloys, steel, iron, brass, bronze, beryllium copper, or depleted uranium; or

(ii) a full jacketed projectile larger than .22 caliber designed and intended for use in a handgun and whose jacket has a weight of more than 25 percent of the total weight of the projectile.

(C) The term "armor piercing ammunition" does not include shotgun
shot required by Federal or State environmental or game regulations
for hunting purposes, a frangible projectile designed for target
shooting, a projectile which the Attorney General finds is
primarily intended to be used for sporting purposes, or any other
projectile or projectile core which the Attorney General finds is
intended to be used for industrial purposes, including a charge
used in an oil and gas well perforating device.
I am not completely sure, but some rifle ammo is included like the 7.62x39 ammo because there are some pistols made for it and this is why it is impossible to import it for the general population and it is illegal to make bullets for it.....however, this only applies to the bullets and if you already have them, or you can get 7.62 armor piercing bullets that will fit into a 7.62x39 case, then it is legal to assemble the cartridge (the restriction just applies to the manufacture and importaion of the bullets). If you assembled these rounds and then sold them while a C&R FFL, then you must record the sale in your bound book along with their ID info.
If you had 5.56 "armor piercing" ammo, then for some reason that is exempt from the restriction from what I have been reading and you supposedly would not have to record it in the bound book....but this part is really sketchy to me.
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Cool! They made it a sticky! I never got a sticky before.
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