First build - HBAR selection

DeadCenter · May 13, 2018

Hi all,
Trying to decide on an 16" mid-gas HBAR barrel.
I keep coming back to this one from WOA (appears to be MD legal to me)

https://www.whiteoakarmament.com/shop/barrels/spr-sdm-barrels/16-sdm-barrel-1-7-twist.html

Thoughts on this one vs alternatives?

omegared24 · May 13, 2018

Not advertised as HBAR means it isn't MD compliant.

I prefer stamped/rollmarked HBAR but I'm paranoid.

DutchV · May 13, 2018

It's too bad there isn't a dimensional rule for HBAR. That barrel looks plenty fat to me. Maybe WOA would stamp it for you?

I'd probably just go for it. White Oak makes great stuff.

dist1646 · May 13, 2018

"HBAR" was a registered Colt trademark. Proof once again that the legislature is beyond stupid when it comes to firearms! I seriously doubt it would be challenged as non compliant.

RJRjr · May 13, 2018

Check out Fulton Armory.

omegared24 · May 13, 2018

dist1646 said:
"HBAR" was a registered Colt trademark. Proof once again that the legislature is beyond stupid when it comes to firearms! I seriously doubt it would be challenged as non compliant.

The people in charge are stupid. I would advise citizens to avoid being stupid. "I read on the interwebz that it should be ok" isn't a good argument in court.

DutchV · May 13, 2018

I'd consider a stamp set or paying WOA a few bucks to add the HBAR lettering. It's not a skinny barrel by any stretch. Or just buy it and don't worry. It's not like cops are actually interested in these details. And it really is an HBAR, whether it's called that or not.

Biggfoot44 · May 14, 2018

Check with Engage . Periodically they get batches of White Oak blanks , and turn and mark them in Maryland suitable ways .

Glock4arms · May 16, 2018

OR you can ask the Manufacturer to provide something in writing that the barrel is HBAR & keep the paperwork with you. I know it sounds stupid but it couldnt hurt.

omegared24 · May 16, 2018

Glock4arms said:
OR you can ask the Manufacturer to provide something in writing that the barrel is HBAR & keep the paperwork with you. I know it sounds stupid but it couldnt hurt.

I'm paranoid because barrels aren't serialized or have manufacturer markings with barrel series (or anything) to correspond that barrel to the manufacturer. Most barrels, HBAR or not, have very generic markings that could be up for debate if they decide to give you a hard time.

I found a company that does a real HBAR roll mark (when requested) on barrels and I don't even need a minimum order. They aren't the fastest company but the barrels I received look great.

Mike3888 · May 16, 2018

DeadCenter said:
Hi all,
Trying to decide on an 16" mid-gas HBAR barrel.
I keep coming back to this one from WOA (appears to be MD legal to me)

https://www.whiteoakarmament.com/shop/barrels/spr-sdm-barrels/16-sdm-barrel-1-7-twist.html

Thoughts on this one vs alternatives?

Here is something interesting. This is right off the Columbia River Arms page.
Formerly Blackhole Weaponry.

River02 · May 16, 2018

RJRjr said:
Check out Fulton Armory.

2nd Fulton Armory—- and they are stamped HBAR

boss281 · May 17, 2018

Thats bizarre...

Mike3888 said:
Here is something interesting. This is right off the Columbia River Arms page.
Formerly Blackhole Weaponry.

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Magnumite · May 17, 2018

Looks like someone will be getting a whole lotta Maryland business. But one should tread with caution...

inkd · May 17, 2018

Mike3888 said:
Here is something interesting. This is right off the Columbia River Arms page.
Formerly Blackhole Weaponry.

That's odd. Because I received an email from that same Sgt saying that profile or dimensions have no bearing on what constitutes a heavy barrel. It was all dependent on the marking of the barrel or the description by the manufacturer.

NYRangers917 · May 17, 2018

Thats crazy. Is there a way to confirm this with MSP without spoiling that disclaimer?

TEN-X · May 17, 2018

H-BAR

JSE has an H-BAR 16" WYLDE chamber mid length 1-9 for under $100. I used one in a recent build with Aero upp & low and chrome plated bolt.

I could only test it at 50yds but it shot a ragged hole with LC 15 55gr ball.

jhcrab · May 17, 2018

Classic has several HBAR barrel's on sale right now. Prices seem reasonable.

omegared24 · May 17, 2018

TEN-X said:
JSE has an H-BAR 16" WYLDE chamber mid length 1-9 for under $100. I used one in a recent build with Aero upp & low and chrome plated bolt.

I could only test it at 50yds but it shot a ragged hole with LC 15 55gr ball.

Do these have "HBAR" stamped on them?

freebird · May 17, 2018

inkd said:
That's odd. Because I received an email from that same Sgt saying that profile or dimensions have no bearing on what constitutes a heavy barrel. It was all dependent on the marking of the barrel or the description by the manufacturer.

And there you have it. The manufacturer (Columbia River) isn't using profile or dimensions to define what an HBAR / heavy barrel is. I only find it odd that M4 is left out.

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