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Old October 21st, 2019, 10:19 PM #1
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PSA (Maybe)- DC Permit Holders Ammunition Management

I took my COF this evening and according to the instructor the DC City Council has recently made two changes.

1. If you carry a firearm with less than 10 rd capacity you are now only allowed to carry enough ammo to fully load your firearm twice. If you carry a gun with a six round mag + 1 in the pipe you are now only allowed to carry 14 rds total, down from 20.

If you carry a mag with 10 rd capacity you can still only carry 20 rds total and must download one mag if carrying with one in the pipe.

2. Possessing a magazine >10 rds is now a felony with a 5 year sentence for each offense.

Full disclosure - I have not been able to verify this information.

He also told me something else that was interesting, he says that in 2017 there were nine justified shootings by permit holders, in 2018 that number rose to 29 and this year is on pace to have 65.

If true that's a lot less victims and more bad guys getting ventilated in our nation's capitol.
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Old October 21st, 2019, 10:33 PM #2
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i just had training on this but let me get clarity and report back to you but i don’t believe him to be correct in 2/3 of that!
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My instructor (just wrapped my 16 DC hours on Sunday) was George Lyon. He seems VERY up on the current DC twists and turns. He relayed the exact same info.

Highly recommend his class, BTW. Used him for DC and to cover my MD renewal class at the same time. Met his partner at the range today to sling lead for that part of DC and MD’s requirements. Was enjoying it enough to shoot a 492/500, and it always feels great to learn some new things.
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I took my COF this evening and according to the instructor the DC City Council has recently made two changes.

1. If you carry a firearm with less than 10 rd capacity you are now only allowed to carry enough ammo to fully load your firearm twice. If you carry a gun with a six round mag + 1 in the pipe you are now only allowed to carry 14 rds total, down from 20.

If you carry a mag with 10 rd capacity you can still only carry 20 rds total and must download one mag if carrying with one in the pipe.

2. Possessing a magazine >10 rds is now a felony with a 5 year sentence for each offense.

Full disclosure - I have not been able to verify this information.

He also told me something else that was interesting, he says that in 2017 there were nine justified shootings by permit holders, in 2018 that number rose to 29 and this year is on pace to have 65.

If true that's a lot less victims and more bad guys getting ventilated in our nation's capitol.
1) this is what George Lyon told me when I took the class in 2018 about how much ammo you're allowed. Basically one reload and/or maximum 20 rounds.

2) according to George's blog, it is indeed a felony.
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Old October 22nd, 2019, 05:01 AM #5
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Because, of course, mass shooters, armed robbers, and assorted other gun-wielding criminals don't want to risk that extra felony charge when they are caught or are dead.
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These hurdles and rules/laws are only in place to cause hesitation and angst and fear for law abiding persons and nothing more . These creations are done for a purpose and not about public safety IMHO
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The a$$hattery of this hurts my head.
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BTW... are you allowed to carry more than one weapon. Seems like folks may need to start relying on the NY reload (perhaps in different calibers, just to make it legal). <Insert scene from "I'm Gonna Get You Sucka" here> Sigh.
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BTW... are you allowed to carry more than one weapon. Seems like folks may need to start relying on the NY reload (perhaps in different calibers, just to make it legal). <Insert scene from "I'm Gonna Get You Sucka" here> Sigh.
I like that 2 registrations anyway. Sounds like a plan. Let's not ask Dc.
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