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Old February 13th, 2018, 08:25 PM #11
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From what I've read, the only data breach that may help you to get a W&C is the OPM data breach if you hold a high level clearance in a job that requires it and your supervisor will write a letter stating you are at risk. In other words, being a victim of the data breach won't help.
If you are trying to use the OPM breach as justification, I hope have deep pockets, a long time, and that the HPRB doesn't get abolished by the state legislature.
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If you are trying to use the OPM breach as justification, I hope have deep pockets, a long time, and that the HPRB doesn't get abolished by the state legislature.


I wasn't saying to use it. The point I was trying to make was because the circumstances are so specific and you'd need a supervisor to put that in writing, you'd be in unicorn realm if you actually got one. I worked for DHS during the OPM breach and I looked into it. Even my branch chief wouldn't have qualified.
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Old February 13th, 2018, 08:50 PM #13
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I only know of one member that fits your crytera, had a shotgun stuffed in his face with creditable follow up threats. Sad that you have to be a victim before your able to defend yourself.
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Old February 13th, 2018, 09:15 PM #14
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It is a system that takes a fair amount of money to move around , I am a business owner with G & S . It is even hard to get a unrestricted without hours of dedication and money .

The permit system is price prohibitive for the poor as a whole and exposed to risk due to area of homes and crime stats .
This is exactly right, and this is the exact point that we should be hammering home when appealing to our liberal friends. "Come on man, don't you care about the poor?"
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This is exactly right, and this is the exact point that we should be hammering home when appealing to our liberal friends. "Come on man, don't you care about the poor?"
Send them a check, but dont let them off thr leash.

Liberals do care for the poor just like pets.
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It can be done, but you basically need to describe why you, by name, are at higher risk compared to your next-door neighbor. The OPM data breach is good if there is some other reason why you would be a specific target.
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I have one based on numerous threats and a fully executed peace order against the POS baby daddy of my section 8 neighbor. He had 32 prior arrests in downtown Baltimore including weapons and drug charges. There is still an open case against him for an arrest related to my run in with him 8 months ago but he is locked up right now on car jacking charges.

I will add that once the paperwork was filed, the MSP was very speedy and professional. It only took about a week to get it issued. Unfortunately, it still cost about $400 with all the training, fingerprinting, and other fees.

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MSP's definition of G&S seems to be changing by the day lately. The latest info I have is that the OPM breach is not G&S by itself. But if you have a high level clearance and a letter signed by your security officer attesting to that fact, you stand a pretty good chance. Good luck finding a security officer willing to sign that letter though... If you are a legitimate business owner, you just need to show a history of bank deposits.
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MSP's definition of G&S seems to be changing by the day lately. The latest info I have is that the OPM breach is not G&S by itself. But if you have a high level clearance and a letter signed by your security officer attesting to that fact, you stand a pretty good chance. Good luck finding a security officer willing to sign that letter though... If you are a legitimate business owner, you just need to show a history of bank deposits.
Showing bank deposits is not required. It is something that they ask for, as a way of denying you, should you not deposit enough at one time. They will also deny you, if you do not provide them. G&S is not defined in the law and MSP LD says they know G&S when they see it.
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I do, but mine was a verified, azzhole apprehended and admitted to pointing a loaded shotgun and threatened to kill me.
Mine was ready in 3 days, unrestricted, except for usual no go areas, schools, post offices, parks, ect

Funny thing, my bank said I can carry in bank, but expect PO PO to show up, (I got a call from the banks "security division" because someone at Bank thought I had a firearm, I guess I printed while sitting down talking to branch manager.) He said he understood, was a fire arm enthusiasts, but "guns scare bankers" we had a good natured conversation, ended up having a good laugh
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