How long to get MD Collectors License?
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If you never bought a handgun in Maryland, why would you need an exemption from "one per month?"
You don't need an exemption until your second or third purchase within 30 days.
Not really unreasonable they expect to see at least one handgun purchase.
Oh not this nonsense again.
The only purpose of the Designated Collector status is to exempt the holder from "one handgun per month." That's all it is.
It has nothing to do with handgun transport.
The idea that it serves any, any, ANY other legal purpose is nothing but internet ********. The State Police and the Attorney General have no such idea.
Rubbish.
I really don't feel like reposting this crap for the hundredth time.
What "Bona Fide" means is not known to the law. It is unsettled. That means you have to pay your lawyer to present your argument in court.
It will not be settled on the side of the road by showing the cop some stupid letter.
It will be settled at your trial, in court. You will be the test case. You will pay your lawyer to try to convince the court.
Certainly "Designated" and "Bona Fide" are two completely different terms, legally. Look very closely, and you will see there is a slight difference in spelling.
In spite of the dangerous nonsense that keeps getting repeated and reposted over and over and over by know nothings here on the internet, the only purpose of the Designated Collector status is to exempt the holder from "one handgun per month." That's all it is.
It has nothing to do with handgun transport.
The only purpose of the Designated Collector status is to exempt the holder from "one handgun per month." That's all it is.
It has nothing to do with handgun transport.
The only purpose of the Designated Collector status is to exempt the holder from "one handgun per month." That's all it is.
It has nothing to do with handgun transport.
The only purpose of the Designated Collector status is to exempt the holder from "one handgun per month." That's all it is.
It has nothing to do with handgun transport.
Blacksmith101
Grumpy Old Man
- Jun 22, 2012
- 22,265
I'll bet you a cup of coffee that when the meaning of "Bona Fide" is adjudicated it is brought up.
Ammo Jon
Ultimate Member
- Mar 3, 2008
- 20,981
Mine just took a day, spoke to MSP and he said it would take about a week to receive the letter itself but in the system it showed me as a collector by the next day. The letter is just for your reference.
- Feb 4, 2013
- 28,175
Because it only applies now to purchases of handguns.
And the 30 day wait law started in 1996.
And the requirement for handguns to be purchased with MSP check started back in the 60s.
And it only applies to future purchases. So why not have you buy one first?
- Feb 4, 2013
- 28,175
Bona fide collector and Designate Collecter have NOTHING to do with each other. And Designated Collector has NOTHING to do with transporting your collection.
Designated collector ONLY has to do with being able to purchase without the 30 day wait. So if you collect via C&R license, it does nothing for you. If you already have a collection, it does nothing for you.
- Feb 4, 2013
- 28,175
And for those that do not know the history of the Designated Collector status.
When MD enacted the 30 day wait between regulated firearms purchases in 1996, the argument was made, what about a collector that comes across another collection for sale and needs to purchase more than one regulated firearm at a time.
So the added the provision to become a Designated Collector, so that you would be exempt from the 30 day wait. At the time, you had to jump through hoops to prove you were a collector.
Later, they relaxed the process, so anyone can get the designation.
And the ONLY thing is has to do with is the 30 day wait. NOTHING else.
When MD enacted the 30 day wait between regulated firearms purchases in 1996, the argument was made, what about a collector that comes across another collection for sale and needs to purchase more than one regulated firearm at a time.
So the added the provision to become a Designated Collector, so that you would be exempt from the 30 day wait. At the time, you had to jump through hoops to prove you were a collector.
Later, they relaxed the process, so anyone can get the designation.
And the ONLY thing is has to do with is the 30 day wait. NOTHING else.
I'm resurrecting another thread due to a situation I kinda/sorta placed myself in. Let's see if I can keep a long story short.
After deciding I wanted a nice 1911 to compliment my solitary 1911 from 1941, I ordered a Dan Wesson Valor through their LE/Mil purchase program. That was early April, and due to Covid 19 and their production being shut down, I've been patiently waiting for that order to be fulfilled.
Fast forward to early July and I came upon another Dan Wesson 1911 for sale from a fellow MDS'er, and my wife decided to fund it for me for a birthday present. Thinking maybe there would be a conflict in timing, I applied for my Designated Collector and sent the application off sometime between the time I paid for the 2nd 1911, and the time I got it out of MD pistol jail 7 days later.
Today I got a call from CZ USA/Dan Wesson to confirm payment information, and to tell me that they h ad a Valor in stock and would be shipping it out today. I haven't gotten my letter back from MSP saying that I am a designated collector, which means that until I do, the FFL will have to hold my other pistol until I'm legally able to pick it up in early August.
After deciding I wanted a nice 1911 to compliment my solitary 1911 from 1941, I ordered a Dan Wesson Valor through their LE/Mil purchase program. That was early April, and due to Covid 19 and their production being shut down, I've been patiently waiting for that order to be fulfilled.
Fast forward to early July and I came upon another Dan Wesson 1911 for sale from a fellow MDS'er, and my wife decided to fund it for me for a birthday present. Thinking maybe there would be a conflict in timing, I applied for my Designated Collector and sent the application off sometime between the time I paid for the 2nd 1911, and the time I got it out of MD pistol jail 7 days later.
Today I got a call from CZ USA/Dan Wesson to confirm payment information, and to tell me that they h ad a Valor in stock and would be shipping it out today. I haven't gotten my letter back from MSP saying that I am a designated collector, which means that until I do, the FFL will have to hold my other pistol until I'm legally able to pick it up in early August.
So here's an update to this thread - as of today (probably earlier, but I got the letter today) I'm officially a MD Designated Collector. Yay.
And now I've run afoul of the damned Maryland Handgun Roster.
It never occurred to me that I'd have to check the roster for a 1911, and especially not one with a model name that's been sold in the past. Unfortunately for me, when Dan Wesson did their update and re-release of the Valor, they changed the model number.....which is not yet on the roster.
The good news is that the FFL is going to hold it for me until it gets approved (I'm assuming it will be approved, but this is Maryland...) at the next board hearing on September 16th. My FFL let me come visit my pistol in pistol prison - it's a dandy gun and one that will be worth the wait, but this roster has got to go.
Here's a question. Can I petition for guns that I don't actually intend to buy, but would be worthwhile additions to the roster, or can I only petition for guns that are specific to what I intend to, or have already purchased? The 2020 Dan Wesson Valor comes in different finishes, and each has its own model number.
And now I've run afoul of the damned Maryland Handgun Roster.
It never occurred to me that I'd have to check the roster for a 1911, and especially not one with a model name that's been sold in the past. Unfortunately for me, when Dan Wesson did their update and re-release of the Valor, they changed the model number.....which is not yet on the roster.
The good news is that the FFL is going to hold it for me until it gets approved (I'm assuming it will be approved, but this is Maryland...) at the next board hearing on September 16th. My FFL let me come visit my pistol in pistol prison - it's a dandy gun and one that will be worth the wait, but this roster has got to go.
Here's a question. Can I petition for guns that I don't actually intend to buy, but would be worthwhile additions to the roster, or can I only petition for guns that are specific to what I intend to, or have already purchased? The 2020 Dan Wesson Valor comes in different finishes, and each has its own model number.
Anyone can petition to have a new gun added. The roster board requires a sample of the gun if it is a different gun. Sights, colors, finishes, etc. are the same gun. Caliber, action, thumb safety, etc. are different so they need to have the gun with the petition.
First, allow me to say the roster is completely useless, but the best thing we can hope for is to have model numbers and caliber removed from the roster altogether. Some manufacturers are listed with model numbers and some are not. Kind of defeats the point. The roster board continues to claim they don’t have legislative authority to do some things that would make it less restrictive, but takes their own authority to do other things when it makes things more restrictive. The whole process is worthless and accomplishes nothing. It is what it is and will never go away as long as Democrats are in charge.
Chuck
That's actually contrary to what I've been told by another FFL - same gun, different finishes, one is ok but the other isn't.
I've also been told that the board doesn't always require a sample. In this case, it's a 1911 in 45 ACP. Thumb safety is the same, caliber is the same, action is the same, etc. Do they really need a sample of the 2020 Valor when it's virtually the same as the previously sold Valor? I added that to my petition - that it's functionally the same as virtually every other Dan Wesson 1911 currently on the roster.
What was in my head didn’t end up on paper... LOL
If the new model number has cosmetic changes, then you’re good to submit a petition to the roster board without a sample. A functional change in the operation of the gun requires a sample. Removing or adding a thumb safety would require a sample with the petition. Adding night sights would not require a sample with the petition.
Chuck
I believe they used to batch approve once a month. So if they got your app the day after they did this months apps,, it would take until the next month to approve, then a week or so to get letter out.
Oswaldo87
Active Member
What’s the current wait time for a MD-DC approval?
Do they send and email or letter notification?
Do they send and email or letter notification?
small shot
Member
- Aug 20, 2020
- 48
I'm currently at 2 months and no letter from msp. I'm thinking it will show up after the election.. Perhaps there is a flood of applications? All that said it still shouldnt take over 2 months.
CZlady
Member
I just recently got my collectors - about a month ago. It was approved in about 10 days but my letter took about 14 days to show up. I was expecting longer wait times because of the surge of people applying.
I only knew it was approved that quickly because I was waiting for my 30 days to be up to pick up a purchase (ruger SR22) but my 'you are not specifically disapproved' email came right at the 7 day mark after purchase. So that was a happy surprise!
I only knew it was approved that quickly because I was waiting for my 30 days to be up to pick up a purchase (ruger SR22) but my 'you are not specifically disapproved' email came right at the 7 day mark after purchase. So that was a happy surprise!
Oswaldo87
Active Member
I had around a two week turn around
I’d give them a quick call. The confirmation letter probably got misplaced or didn’t get sent. You don’t need the letter, so if they say you’re good, you’re good.
Chuck
small shot
Member
- Aug 20, 2020
- 48
Thank you for response and the push to call
After being bounced around a women finally told me I was approved but could not give me the date (mentioned they were behind on letters). She had a bad attitude and could tell from the tone in her voice she hated life...So I plan to hit gun stores today to finally get a lower
Thank you for response and the push to call
So I plan to hit gun stores today to finally get a lower
You can’t imagine the number of phone calls they get and the number of people that yell at them because their HQL took 3 weeks to process. I’m sure it’s staggering. You were certainly patient, and I’m sure they appreciate that. Now that you’re approved as a Designated Collector, you can now buy as often as you like. You are exempt from a law that shouldn’t have been there in the first place... LOL
We have M-16 cut lowers for $129 if you want to stop by and take a look. We have lower parts kits and buffers, but no uppers. We’re open Monday through Saturday from 10-6.
Chuck
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