Marines looking at the 1911 again

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  • Sharadeth

    Active Member
    Oct 11, 2011
    118
    Well to the original topic, the 1911 is definitively a great platform that is easy to shoot well for a lot of people but I kinda feel like the marines are like the people doing that "hipster" thing trying to be different even though there are a lot of others like them. Don't mistake what I'm saying because I have all the respect in the world for them but I do feel they try a bit to hard sometimes :)
     

    terpsfan59

    Member
    Apr 7, 2010
    15
    Well to the original topic, the 1911 is definitively a great platform that is easy to shoot well for a lot of people but I kinda feel like the marines are like the people doing that "hipster" thing trying to be different even though there are a lot of others like them. Don't mistake what I'm saying because I have all the respect in the world for them but I do feel they try a bit to hard sometimes :)

    They have no reason to do the "Hipster" thing. The last time I checked they were one of the best fighting units in the world. If they are looking at this as a viable alternative I'm sure it has been debated. And the article if I'm not mistaken did not say all Marines but special forces and Recon Marines.
     

    Sharadeth

    Active Member
    Oct 11, 2011
    118
    They have no reason to do the "Hipster" thing. The last time I checked they were one of the best fighting units in the world. If they are looking at this as a viable alternative I'm sure it has been debated. And the article if I'm not mistaken did not say all Marines but special forces and Recon Marines.

    Please I think you have mistaken what I said for something else. They are indeed incredible at what they do but they had to get that way from delineating themselves from the other branches. They started off as essentially the bottom of the barrel pick of soldiers (their 1812 recruitment flyers basically said anybody that wasn't mentally insane or have a specific form of leprosy) and needed to do something to change that so they took a que from their navy cousins and did the rifleman role for each grunt first an this has worked well since. I simply said that because of this I feel like they as both individuals and as a whole deliberately try to differentiate themselves from others. Not that it is a bad thing but it is there. As for the 1911 I'm sure it will fill the role that they need it too without a doubt but since we have no details of what they need it for it still leaves the possibility open that they want it because they can no matter how unlikely that may be :D
     

    Sirex

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    Oct 30, 2010
    10,350
    Westminster, MD
    Ok, we all know the 1911 will never be as reliable or beautiful as my .45 HiPoint. BUT........if I was to consider stepping down to a 1911, what would be a good quality entry level 1911? I don't need all the bells and whistles, super finishes, etc. Just a simple pull the trigger/go bang evertime. I won't be match shooting or taking it into combat ( I hope). I read good reviews on the Norinco 1911's saying they function reliably, but aren't much to look at, like an AK. Any pointers to someone looking to buy one of these paperweights?
     

    mikec

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    Dec 1, 2007
    11,453
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    Ok, we all know the 1911 will never be as reliable or beautiful as my .45 HiPoint. BUT........if I was to consider stepping down to a 1911, what would be a good quality entry level 1911? I don't need all the bells and whistles, super finishes, etc. Just a simple pull the trigger/go bang evertime. I won't be match shooting or taking it into combat ( I hope). I read good reviews on the Norinco 1911's saying they function reliably, but aren't much to look at, like an AK. Any pointers to someone looking to buy one of these paperweights?

    The Norinco 1911's haven't been imported in a while due to Clinton. You will find only used Norinco models.

    Rock Island Armory Tactical Model is a nice entry level gun. STI has a "hybrid" gun, some of the guts are STI, the rest is imported from RIA. That model is called the Spartan. If you can afford more $$, S&W makes some nice 1911s.

    Some folks like the Remington R1. I have never handled one, so i can't say anything good or bad about them.
     

    mopar92

    Official MDS Court Jester
    May 5, 2011
    9,513
    Taneytown
    Ok, we all know the 1911 will never be as reliable or beautiful as my .45 HiPoint. BUT........if I was to consider stepping down to a 1911, what would be a good quality entry level 1911? I don't need all the bells and whistles, super finishes, etc. Just a simple pull the trigger/go bang evertime. I won't be match shooting or taking it into combat ( I hope). I read good reviews on the Norinco 1911's saying they function reliably, but aren't much to look at, like an AK. Any pointers to someone looking to buy one of these paperweights?

    Oh God, I think you just hit the MDS self destruct button.
     

    Sirex

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    Oct 30, 2010
    10,350
    Westminster, MD
    Yeah, I know the Norincos are all used, which would help on the spent casing deal. The Norincos WERE all over Gunbroker a while ago. I was really about to buy a nice Rock Island 1911 a couple months ago from Centerfire, but when they won't ship to MD, I got all pissy and bought a M57 Tok. I still plan on buying a 1911 in the future, just can't dwindle it down to one specific brand/model. Maybe I should play it safe and just get Red Ryder BB gun?
     

    FnsweetS3

    Pro Whack-a-mole chanpion
    Dec 8, 2011
    123
    Taneytown
    The big problem is that the Marine Corps should have NEVER done away with them in the first place. They went with the Beretta and though it was a good gun..... it lacked stopping power. I blame the round not the gun. Going to the 9mm was the "hipster" thing they did.... not returning to something they never should have let go.
     

    Scott7891

    Love those Combloc guns
    Sep 4, 2007
    1,894
    Back in MD sadly
    The Norinco 1911's haven't been imported in a while due to Clinton. You will find only used Norinco models.

    That is not necessarily true. Some can be considered "new old stock" as they were never fired but collected dust in the box it came in. Ive seen several like that on gunbroker.

    They aren't bad pistols for what they are worth. Not the best mind you but pretty good especially since they are made of stronger steel compared to what the original 1911 metal strength was and ed brown used them as base guns to modify so they seem to me a "diamond in the rough."
     

    Huckleberry

    No One of Consequence
    MDS Supporter
    Oct 19, 2007
    23,248
    Severn & Lewes
    That is not necessarily true. Some can be considered "new old stock" as they were never fired but collected dust in the box it came in. Ive seen several like that on gunbroker.

    They aren't bad pistols for what they are worth. Not the best mind you but pretty good especially since they are made of stronger steel compared to what the original 1911 metal strength was and ed brown used them as base guns to modify so they seem to me a "diamond in the rough."

    That was Bill Wilson and he used some of Ed Brown's parts back then.

    The Norinco steel was not harder the the USGI steel but was comparable and much better and still is better than the softer Phillipine 1911s.

    I still have a Norinco sitting in the safe. Just never got a roundtuit for a project gun.
     
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    Sirex

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    Oct 30, 2010
    10,350
    Westminster, MD
    That is not necessarily true. Some can be considered "new old stock" as they were never fired but collected dust in the box it came in. Ive seen several like that on gunbroker.

    They aren't bad pistols for what they are worth. Not the best mind you but pretty good especially since they are made of stronger steel compared to what the original 1911 metal strength was and ed brown used them as base guns to modify so they seem to me a "diamond in the rough."

    There are some NIB Norincos on GB from estates and collections. I think at this point I'd rather get a used one though, because of the pointless spent case law here in MD. Don't need a super 1911, just a reliable one. I think from what I have read, most people say to stay away from the hollow points in these? Here's the 1911 I "almost" pulled the trigger on;

    http://centerfiresystems.com/AC-RI1911-NIC45.aspx
     

    Huckleberry

    No One of Consequence
    MDS Supporter
    Oct 19, 2007
    23,248
    Severn & Lewes
    If the Recon and MARSOC shooters and armorers are getting to provide their input to the selection process and they want the 1911 and are satisfied with the final seletion then people just need to STFU and move on.

    One advantage of a steel frame 1911 over any polymer frame is when you need to smack somebody upside the head to silence them. The lanyard loop makes for a nice hasty crusher to crack the skull open. Polymer frames just flex too much and make it hard to pistol whip a BG.:rolleyes:
     

    mikec

    Ultimate Member
    Dec 1, 2007
    11,453
    Off I-83
    That is not necessarily true. Some can be considered "new old stock" as they were never fired but collected dust in the box it came in. Ive seen several like that on gunbroker.

    They aren't bad pistols for what they are worth. Not the best mind you but pretty good especially since they are made of stronger steel compared to what the original 1911 metal strength was and ed brown used them as base guns to modify so they seem to me a "diamond in the rough."

    If a 4473 was filled out and completed on the gun then it is used. The only way a "NOS" can be is if a FFL had one laying around in their collection.
     

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