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Old August 10th, 2010, 08:16 AM #491
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Oh for God's sake guys.....did you really think CanDoEz was being serious?

Take a deep breath and put aside your indignation. It was a joke.

Relax.
This thread has people wound up tight ! People need to start disclaimering their humor.
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Only the police & the military should have a sense of humor.
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Beware what you ask for, they do have a twisted sense of humor
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Awful quiet in the latest MSI update thread.
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This thread has people wound up tight ! People need to start disclaimering their humor.
Or people could not take things on the interwebz so seriously.
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Part of my dis-satisfaction of the NRA stems from indifference to other groups, but also a severe lack of mission. Yeah, we all know the high-level goal ("support the 2A"), but I see nothing else. The SAF polls its members and sets goals accordingly. They are upfront in saying that they are working first and foremost on getting constitutional carry recognized nationwide. Everything they are doing is to get that goal, because this is what their members requested.

The NRA is a bigger group and cannot be quite so limited in their view, but by no means does that imply they cannot work toward the specific things we want. I think the NRA avoids issues like forcing carry on states and localities because they are afraid. They have power because of their relationship with politicians (and our money), but they are afraid to upset politicians too much. Pushing court cases that limit the power of the legislative would upset too many elected types (who want that power for themselves)...so the NRA won't do it.
I think it's a little more sinister then that: If you sell "Boogieman Protection Services", what happens to your business if the Boogieman dies?

The NRA has gone from "freedom fighter" to for-profit business. Maybe it's just me being tinfoil-hatted, but what would be the benefit to the NRA if gun rights were fully restored?

They'd become the NAACP; a national "cause" organization that doesn't realize the struggle is over, and becomes a shell of it's former glory. Maybe the NRA doesn't fight as hard as they should because they know should the fight end with our victory, it could ultimately be the end of their rein.

I think the 2nd Amendment Foundation would be perfectly happy to shut their doors, if the cause was lack of necessity. I don't think the NRA would share that same outlook.
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What do you guys think will happen to all the restricted permits when this suit is won? Will everyone have to reapply, since those restrictions are no longer valid.

The restricted permit is very frustrating. It basically says, "we trust you and feel you are ok to carry, but ..............." Makes you feel like that middle child :-)

Many people are excited and impatient at this point. I appreciate the work of MSI and SAF, we just need to wait this one out.

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Oh for God's sake guys.....did you really think CanDoEz was being serious?

Take a deep breath and put aside your indignation. It was a joke.

Relax.

Sure it was a joke...wink wink
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What do you guys think will happen to all the restricted permits when this suit is won? Will everyone have to reapply, since those restrictions are no longer valid.

The restricted permit is very frustrating. It basically says, "we trust you and feel you are ok to carry, but ..............." Makes you feel like that middle child :-)

Many people are excited and impatient at this point. I appreciate the work of MSI and SAF, we just need to wait this one out.

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I am pretty sure you have to reapply to upgrade to anything above what you already have because I am pretty sure they will want to maintain some restricted status just for their enjoyment.
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off topic a bit but here goes
when MD becomes shall issue will it be for guns only registered thru the MSP check
or do you think we could carry c&r guns like the cz82 or the p64
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