PTR-91 legal?

thegoose · Dec 25, 2014

I was wondering if a PTR-91 is legal in md. Can anyone help out?

-Z/28- · Dec 25, 2014

No, banned. It's a G3/Hk91 clone.

The CETME is however believed to be legal.

thegoose · Dec 25, 2014

Thanks

namelessname120 · Dec 25, 2014

I got the pistol version

dontpanic · Dec 25, 2014

namelessname120 said:
I got the pistol version

The PTR-91 PDW is legal. (The pistol version).
I held one in my hands at Duffy's yesterday. Really nice, I think there are 2 barrel lengths available. It would make a great SBR.

Edit: available in 8in and 12in

Vile Shadow · Dec 25, 2014

-Z/28- said:
No, banned. It's a G3/Hk91 clone.

The CETME is however believed to be legal.

Engage is one dealer who so far has agreed to do a transfer of a CETME.

Wayne1one · Dec 25, 2014

+1 for pistol

Jimbob2.0 · Dec 25, 2014

Id love to know more about the "legality" as I would rule the dice on a CAI CETME>

Also would that apply to the PTR CETME or are they purely cosmetic changes to their 91 clone?

Sewer Rat · Dec 25, 2014

OK... I am confused now.... I know that the CETME is the precusor to the HK91/G3/PTR91, and they do share some components.... alot of components... but from what I understand is that it is legal only because it is not specifically called out on "the" list... right?

Jimbob2.0 · Dec 25, 2014

Sewer Rat said:
OK... I am confused now.... I know that the CETME is the precusor to the HK91/G3/PTR91, and they do share some components.... alot of components... but from what I understand is that it is legal only because it is not specifically called out on "the" list... right?

Sharing a few components isn't the discriminator, a gun can be mechanically distinct if it has only a few different parts. Take the Polytech M14S which is legal (seem MSP website) even though the M1A is not. Difference from what I have read is mainly geometric in the bolt. That gets you past the copycat test and CETME isn't listed in statute.

That said, I would prefer to see it cleared on MSP's website.

-Z/28- · Dec 25, 2014

Sewer Rat said:
OK... I am confused now.... I know that the CETME is the precusor to the HK91/G3/PTR91, and they do share some components.... alot of components... but from what I understand is that it is legal only because it is not specifically called out on "the" list... right?

It's legal because it's not internally parts compatible with the G3. The ruling from MSP on the Chinese M14 copies that jimbob mentioned would support that. They ruled those were okay because they're metric guns therefore the parts don't interchange.

Vile Shadow · Dec 25, 2014

Sewer Rat said:
OK... I am confused now.... I know that the CETME is the precusor to the HK91/G3/PTR91, and they do share some components.... alot of components... but from what I understand is that it is legal only because it is not specifically called out on "the" list... right?

http://www.mdshooters.com/showpost.php?p=3560239&postcount=9

Sewer Rat · Dec 26, 2014

Thanks guys... and Thank you Sling Blade for the link... I thought there were a lot more compatible internal parts.

Should have got a PTR when I had the chance, and they were a lot cheaper

Atlantic Firearms.com · Dec 26, 2014

The PTR PDW 308 pistol is legal in MD the rifle is not , Below is a pic of the K3P with 11 inch barrel and wide front hand guard with Pistol Arm Brace.

Atlantic Firearms.com · Dec 26, 2014

Here is the MD Legal PTR 51P with 8 inch barrel and Arm Brace Atlantic Firearms

dreadpirate · Dec 27, 2014

Not sure the CETME is as good a quality firearm as a PTR. The pistol version is worth a look see I think.

Scott7891 · Dec 27, 2014

dreadpirate said:
Not sure the CETME is as good a quality firearm as a PTR. The pistol version is worth a look see I think.

An original CETME from CETME itself in Spain are excellent quality firearms. The problem is they were only imported before the passage of the Gun Control Act of '68 and are worth several thousand if not ten's of thousands of dollars for their rarity. Century just ruined their reputation from their build quality which is why I refuse to gamble and buy anything Century-built. Also original CETME's could only take their proprietary mags not interchange with G3 mags.

Their real name is the Model C. CETME is the Spanish government firm that built them.

oldman12 · Dec 27, 2014

This f*cking state really pisses me off.Wanting to save for a new toy ,preferably in 308 and once again banned. The ptr 91 is good looking ,a lot of good reviews, banned ********.

sailskidrive · Dec 28, 2014

oldman12 said:
This f*cking state really pisses me off.Wanting to save for a new toy ,preferably in 308 and once again banned. The ptr 91 is good looking ,a lot of good reviews, banned ********.

The funny part is like the M1A, have you ever even heard of an Hk91 being used in a crime?

I had a PTR91 with the carbine length 16" barrel, it kicked like a mule. (And I'm a pretty big guy)
The pistol versions have got to be an impractical nightmare not to mention very heavy.

oldman12 · Dec 28, 2014

sailskidrive said:
The funny part is like the M1A, have you ever even heard of an Hk91 being used in a crime?

I had a PTR91 with the carbine length 16" barrel, it kicked like a mule. (And I'm a pretty big guy)
The pistol versions have got to be an impractical nightmare not to mention very heavy.

Not in less Holder sends them to some New Mericans.

I was starting to fall in love with the Squad Carbine. I'm a small to medium guy and was figuring a heavy buffer if recoil was a bit to much.

I guess I won't need to worry about that until I move to the USA again.

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