Lower transferred as HBAR rifle.

danb · Jan 2, 2018

A stripped lower is 77r. 7 day wait. no HQL. There is MSP guidance on this from 2014.

If it was not done this way, I'd stay out of other peoples bidniz. Maybe there are some things they are not saying, or confusing, maybe they dont know what the FFL really did.

By poking your nose in there is no upside. When its your time, do it right, so you wont do time.

Melnic · Jan 2, 2018

Read first page:
http://mdsp.maryland.gov/Document D...3 - Receivers of Banned Assault Long Guns.pdf

However, the "stripped" lower receiver, as per the definition above, is still considered a firearm and there fore is subject to the 77R process

swinokur · Jan 2, 2018

I see a previous post was deleted, but If it was purchased out of state as an HBAR before 10-1-13, there would be no requirement to register it after moving to MD. That statute applies to regulated firearms purchased before 10-1-13. Only regulated handguns can be brought into the state after 10-1-13, and they must be registered within 90 days of establishing residence.

If you bought an HBAR before 10-1-13 and then move to MD, and put a non HBAR upper on it, you have made a banned firearm. registered or not.

danb · Jan 2, 2018

Sounds to me as if we have no idea what actually happened, or the history of the lower.

I would bet that the FFL has more info and did it correctly, whatever happened. We just don't actually know.

ELEMENT94 · Jan 2, 2018

Biggfoot44 said:
Is this purported to have happened in Maryland ?

Yes at a fairly popular dealer.

erwos · Jan 2, 2018

ELEMENT94 said:
Yes at a fairly popular dealer.

Name the FFL. If they did nothing wrong, there should be no problem saying who it was.

danb · Jan 2, 2018

its certainly possible its that One Very Popular Dealer that has sold zero stripped lowers since 2014, did not go to meetings, or read the MSP guidance. Its also possible Anna Nicole married for love.

Id bet a paycheck if the OP went back to the Very Popular Dealer and tried to get the Stripped Lower, "same deal my buddy ____ got", 4473 only, the OP would find some flaws in the story.

gunismyfriend · Jan 2, 2018

Too little info to assess the situation.
Could it be of a caliber other than 556?

swinokur · Jan 2, 2018

If the lower was sold as an O, the caliber would be Multi.

danb · Jan 2, 2018

There is so little information, the lower could be made of magical unicorn shit, which is obviously cash and carry. No 4473 either, but the FFL was being cautious.

ELEMENT94 · Jan 2, 2018

FFL was called a second time, and agreed to redo the lower as "other" on a 77R.

swinokur · Jan 2, 2018

danb said:
There is so little information, the lower could be made of magical unicorn shit, which is obviously cash and carry. No 4473 either, but the FFL was being cautious.

oh this stuff?
.

danb · Jan 2, 2018

Thats it!

rtse4me · Jan 2, 2018

danb said:
its certainly possible its that One Very Popular Dealer that has sold zero stripped lowers since 2014, did not go to meetings, or read the MSP guidance. Its also possible Anna Nicole married for love.

Id bet a paycheck if the OP went back to the Very Popular Dealer and tried to get the Stripped Lower, "same deal my buddy ____ got", 4473 only, the OP would find some flaws in the story.

If I am correct on who I think it is I am sure they were selling lowers in 2016 and you might lose a weeks pay..

ELEMENT94 · Jan 2, 2018

gunismyfriend said:
Too little info to assess the situation.
Could it be of a caliber other than 556?

Multi

swinokur · Jan 2, 2018

Even if changed to an O, if it was after 10-1-13, it can only be built into an HBAR. And if that is done, it can never be a pistol.

ELEMENT94 · Jan 2, 2018

danb said:
There is so little information, the lower could be made of magical unicorn shit, which is obviously cash and carry. No 4473 either, but the FFL was being cautious.

What else did you need?

Stripped lower
Caliber - Multi

Bought without a 77R cash and carry.

FFL told buyer it was done as a HBAR Rifle.

swinokur · Jan 2, 2018

The FFL phucked up. If it was sold as a stripped lower, it could not then be an HBAR at the same time.,

Read no 2 in the FAQ.

inkd · Jan 2, 2018

ELEMENT94 said:
Should we even be talking about it? What happens down the road if the SN is run, and its not HBAR configuration?

If you're not sure "we" should be talking about it, "we" probably shouldn't be.

Kinda like the first rule of fight club.

danb · Jan 2, 2018

"stripped lower" is not specific enough. Some stripped lowers are 77r but no HQL, others require an HQL, and still others are cash and carry. I'd really have to see the actual thing.

But if its true the FFL is going to re-do this as 77r, the least you can do is get them a case of Vaseline and Preperation H. This cant be the only one, and this is going to hurt.

Lower transferred as HBAR rifle.

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