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  • randomuser

    Ultimate Member
    Nov 12, 2018
    5,775
    Baltimore County
    Are YOU going to walk up to Frosh / the cops / any authority figure, and say you are breaking the law?

    Out of your 20 odd posts here, the great majority are 'the government sucks and is all powerful', 'protesting in silence is worthless', and assorted other opinions that contribute very little, overall.

    About the only thing you wrote that I can support is this:



    At least you haven't been rude to anyone. :thumbsup:

    No reason to be rude to anyone on here. We all are here for something in common. Sure, we might have better or more poorly worded responses than others, but most of us are on the same page at the end of the day when it comes to not wanting our rights to be infringed upon.

    You called me out on only having 20 or so posts and you are correct. Until recently, I have not found the need to join a forum and express thoughts with fellow Americans about 2a. Something has recently changed and it's not my stance on our freedoms.

    I'm a husband, father of 2, run a small business that employs between 5-10 people, my business is licensed by the state, I'm a former Marine (Honorably discharged) and I love my country. I say this only because I'm not some guy with 500 pounds of rice and beans living in his moms basement building ar15's. I'm the average American. I'm writing this mainly because I never went and did that introduction thing here on the forum. I originally had intentions of doing an introduction in the proper section, but could not even believe the stuff I see, read, hear, so I went ahead and posted instead of introducing. My first post was this.
    https://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?p=5407180#post5407180




    I don't however like what I see people in this country doing to it at the moment. The change that has happened over the last few years has come so hard and so fast unlike anything I have ever seen before and it's not met with opposition and when there is opposition it is ignored to have the group that cries the loudest get their way. Any you, nor I can cry louder than a group of politicians and liberals.

    The scary thing is that the change we have seen in the last few years pales in comparison to the changes that appear to be coming right now and over the next few years.

    I joined only because I did not know where else to go to vent.
     

    eruby

    Confederate Jew
    MDS Supporter
    No reason to be rude to anyone on here. We all are here for something in common. Sure, we might have better or more poorly worded responses than others, but most of us are on the same page at the end of the day when it comes to not wanting our rights to be infringed upon.

    You called me out on only having 20 or so posts and you are correct. Until recently, I have not found the need to join a forum and express thoughts with fellow Americans about 2a. Something has recently changed and it's not my stance on our freedoms.

    I'm a husband, father of 2, run a small business that employs between 5-10 people, my business is licensed by the state, I'm a former Marine (Honorably discharged) and I love my country. I say this only because I'm not some guy with 500 pounds of rice and beans living in his moms basement building ar15's. I'm the average American. I'm writing this mainly because I never went and did that introduction thing here on the forum. I originally had intentions of doing an introduction in the proper section, but could not even believe the stuff I see, read, hear, so I went ahead and posted instead of introducing. My first post was this.
    https://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?p=5407180#post5407180




    I don't however like what I see people in this country doing to it at the moment. The change that has happened over the last few years has come so hard and so fast unlike anything I have ever seen before and it's not met with opposition and when there is opposition it is ignored to have the group that cries the loudest get their way. Any you, nor I can cry louder than a group of politicians and liberals.

    The scary thing is that the change we have seen in the last few years pales in comparison to the changes that appear to be coming right now and over the next few years.

    I joined only because I did not know where else to go to vent.
    Thank you for your reply, and welcome!

    To be clear, I didn't call you out for only having 20 posts, I was commenting that most of your posts, to me, read like someone who might be trolling. I did single out the one post I agreed with.

    Based on your reply above, I see you are just another Maryland malcontent like us, grousing about are situation. I am overly cynical, and likely read many of your post the wrong way.

    Maybe post in what county you live, we often try to have events, and meet-ups.

    Thank you for your service (Ooh-rah!!!) :patriot:
     

    Boxcab

    MSI EM
    MDS Supporter
    Feb 22, 2007
    7,865
    AA County
    I'll just leave this little bit of wisdom here.

    civil-disobedience-gandhi.jpg

    It's a bit easier to hold a sit in when you do not have a job and live off the kindness of others as Gandhi did. Easy to sit in jail when you have no boss to fire you, no mortgage or rent payments, no wife or kids to support, no need to be anywhere the next day. No personal possessions or money to be taken in fines or fees.

    So, to be like Gandhi would mean not owning, or wanting to own, any guns in the first place. Probably not the best person to use as a shining example for our cause.


    Or am I missing your point. :shrug:




    .
     

    yakfish

    Banned
    BANNED!!!
    Jan 27, 2017
    240
    Actually Ghandi didn’t have ANY of those things because he sacrificed all of them for being the leader of the movement.

    He could’ve decided to keep his mouth shut, go along and get along, and have a nice relatively comfortable upper caste life as an educated Indian, working with the British colonials.

    But he didn’t.

    Instead he gave up all that stuff (and had what little he didn’t give up taken away from him by force), and all those possibilities of a nice comfortable life. Because he was willing to make that sacrifice.

    Also, he was outraged about the British stripping Indians of firearms, pacifism not withstanding.


    So yeah, it’s entirely appropriate that he is an example here in this argument.
     

    Doctor_M

    Certified Mad Scientist
    MDS Supporter
    It's a bit easier to hold a sit in when you do not have a job and live off the kindness of others as Gandhi did... Or am I missing your point. :shrug:
    .

    Yes, I'm afraid you did. He was a member of the merchant caste and a fairly well off lawyer who sacrificed much... including ultimately his life.

    Actually Ghandi didn’t have ANY of those things because he sacrificed all of them for being the leader of the movement. He could’ve decided to keep his mouth shut, go along and get along, and have a nice relatively comfortable upper caste life as an educated Indian, working with the British colonials. But he didn’t. Instead he gave up all that stuff (and had what little he didn’t give up taken away from him by force), and all those possibilities of a nice comfortable life. Because he was willing to make that sacrifice. Also, he was outraged about the British stripping Indians of firearms, pacifism not withstanding. So yeah, it’s entirely appropriate that he is an example here in this argument.

    PRECISELY!

    “Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the Act depriving a whole nation of arms as the blackest"

    Mahatma Gandhi

    Gold star!
     

    Biggfoot44

    Ultimate Member
    Aug 2, 2009
    32,877
    Just because Eruby is cynical , doesn't mean the trolls and Dem Operatives aren't out to get us .
     

    Not_an_outlaw

    Ultimate Member
    Patriot Picket
    Jan 26, 2013
    4,679
    Prince Frederick, MD
    No reason to be rude to anyone on here. We all are here for something in common. Sure, we might have better or more poorly worded responses than others, but most of us are on the same page at the end of the day when it comes to not wanting our rights to be infringed upon.

    You called me out on only having 20 or so posts and you are correct. Until recently, I have not found the need to join a forum and express thoughts with fellow Americans about 2a. Something has recently changed and it's not my stance on our freedoms.

    I'm a husband, father of 2, run a small business that employs between 5-10 people, my business is licensed by the state, I'm a former Marine (Honorably discharged) and I love my country. I say this only because I'm not some guy with 500 pounds of rice and beans living in his moms basement building ar15's. I'm the average American. I'm writing this mainly because I never went and did that introduction thing here on the forum. I originally had intentions of doing an introduction in the proper section, but could not even believe the stuff I see, read, hear, so I went ahead and posted instead of introducing. My first post was this.
    https://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?p=5407180#post5407180




    I don't however like what I see people in this country doing to it at the moment. The change that has happened over the last few years has come so hard and so fast unlike anything I have ever seen before and it's not met with opposition and when there is opposition it is ignored to have the group that cries the loudest get their way. Any you, nor I can cry louder than a group of politicians and liberals.

    The scary thing is that the change we have seen in the last few years pales in comparison to the changes that appear to be coming right now and over the next few years.

    I joined only because I did not know where else to go to vent.

    Liar, Liar, Liar. No honorably Discharged Marine is just an average American!
    Welcome.
     

    yakfish

    Banned
    BANNED!!!
    Jan 27, 2017
    240
    Just because Eruby is cynical , doesn't mean the trolls and Dem Operatives aren't out to get us .


    Who cares?

    Guess what? They’re out to get us anyway. They’ll have you complying with every unconstitutional law they pass right up until you’re completely and totally disarmed, and there are many who will comply eagerly with every new step, just to prove how they’re law abiding gun owners. This is the biggest weapon they use against us. Our own desire to prove we’re not a criminal.


    Not me. And I want them to know that there are just some people who simply will not abide anymore.
     

    TAstro

    Active Member
    Dec 8, 2015
    329
    I have crept out of the shadows to post for the first time in a long, long time.

    We need to raise awareness right? What about a hashtag campaign (at your discretion) and slap stickers. #ShallNotBeInfringed #PatriotPicket, #IWillNotComply, etc etc
     

    lemmdus

    Active Member
    Feb 24, 2015
    380
    ^^^^^

    Who believes that the police keep no records? Why issue something but keep no record yourself of the action? We should all just see what the form looks like and make our own. If they have no record, how would they know it’s not real?

    Well, if they have been solving cold cases using DNA data bases like 23 and Me and Ancestry, I am pretty sure they will keep records too.
     

    lemmdus

    Active Member
    Feb 24, 2015
    380
    As I have said before in the past and I will say again here, there is not enough of us here in the Democratic People's Republic to changes these laws or elected officials in Annapolis. The only way we can hopefully do something is 1) register as a Democrat and try to primary the people that vote for gun control...many of these Reps and Senators get by on a few votes and if enough people primary them you can let them know they lost because they voted against the 2nd. 2) Give money to help litigate stupid laws. 3) Take someone shooting. You don't have to be a hunter to go out and shoot a 22 at a target. Take your kids or grandkids. Set up the spinning targets, they'll love it. This is our best bet, play spoiler, support legal action, education.
     

    clint west

    Member
    Aug 29, 2015
    44
    maryland
    to have a sliver of a chance there might need to be more organization among those of use throughout the state with interest in retaining our rights guaranteed by the constitution. As I see it, anytime there is legislation proposed to further infringe 2A, our lawmakers are immediately inundated with support because those in favor of govt control all march in lock step and react in an immediate and emotional fashion. Example Moms With Rage Against 2A links to LBGTQRZ, links to Sierra Club, links to Socialism Now!, links to etc etc in immediate mutual support . Whereas we are busy working to support our families ( or fishing ) and maybe check into MD Shooters once in a while and maybe find out too late some legislation is being voted on tomorrow.

    Probably to have a fighting chance at any influence, someone should invent a unifying message platform that would link mdshooters with people who have/had hunting license, Shall issue ..etc etc so when some law is proposed, more of us know about it sooner and can at a minimum express our view to legislators. For all I know a state senator might hear from 1000 gun hate people for every 10 rational hunters, sportsmen 2A protectors
     

    BeoBill

    Crank in the Third Row
    MDS Supporter
    Oct 3, 2013
    27,058
    南馬里蘭州鮑伊
    If things continue the way they are, eventually every gun owner in the country is going to be forced to comply or fight..there will be no middle ground..so, are we going to slough off our responsibility to fight now, or force our children and grandchildren to fight because we stood by and hid in our basements? This isn't just about guns..our enemies on the left (and regardless how you feel, they ARE our enemies) want to replace our current free market economy with socialism, they want to control us from cradle to grave and they want a monopoly on power..none of which they can do without permission from the American gun owner..so bury your heads in the ground all you'd like. .they are still coming for your guns and your freedom. .if you are not actively pushing back you're part of the problem..

    Think of it this way:

    2A is the canary in the coal mine.

    The Leftists/Socialists/Communists/Tyrants are picking on us because we are visible. We make a lot of noise when we shoot, we get gallons of ink and air time when there's a shooting, and wear funny clothes. When they are completely done with us (see England; especially Londonistan) they will bear down on the other amendment the bulk of the free world does not explicitly have, the 1A. This is already happening, BTW.

    And yes, it SUCKS to be right...
     

    randomuser

    Ultimate Member
    Nov 12, 2018
    5,775
    Baltimore County
    Think of it this way:

    2A is the canary in the coal mine.

    The Leftists/Socialists/Communists/Tyrants are picking on us because we are visible. We make a lot of noise when we shoot, we get gallons of ink and air time when there's a shooting, and wear funny clothes. When they are completely done with us (see England; especially Londonistan) they will bear down on the other amendment the bulk of the free world does not explicitly have, the 1A. This is already happening, BTW.

    And yes, it SUCKS to be right...

    1a infringement already has the hollywood crowd and media following along

    These tweets from time ago
    https://www.google.com/search?q=kev...xOHfAhUySN8KHdB0DZwQ_AUIDigB&biw=1920&bih=922

    Let to this
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/arts...announced-oscars-host/?utm_term=.a8644d813ed2


    how many gun/shooting/instructional/discussion youtube channels have been demonitized?

    how many people who oppose the left have been shadow banned from social media?

    Regardless of what anyone thinks about infowars the fact that google, youtube, twitter, etc all banned it at the same time shows the collusion and power of the hollywood/media power. I'm not talking about like or dislike of infowars. I'm talking about the power of the left to control content.

    If we all know facebook uses our info in a way we dont like, but we all continue to use facebook, then the issue is us. We as a people seem to be weak in standing together and for example deleting facebook. We have the power, not them. We have no power individually, but we do collectively.

    The fact that the agenda can be pushed harder on one side and silenced on another side when it comes to forms of media/social media is scary. But as long as we all use their platforms and keep our accounts moving forward they make their money and continue doing what they do.

    Tbh, the world was a much better place before social media.



    Point I'm making is that the more 1a that they sensor the easier it makes it to get out their message about 2a and gain support for their cause. People have gotten way to pc to the point that your wrong if you dont have a leftist opinion and you are not free to have an opposing view. Your wrong if you voice that now a day.
     
    S

    sig226

    Guest
    Real suggestion vs. just whining

    It took me awhile to read past all the whining (and before you all flame me, read on) about this.

    Whining is never going to effect change.

    So, here's IMHO a practical way to effect change, albeit indirectly:

    Push 2A folks, independents, Democrats and even gun grabbers in MD on an issue that *everyone* should be behind:

    -fix the gerry mandering of voting districts in MD

    WITHOUT even mentioning 2A as an issue!

    Here's why:

    - first, having a representative body that truly represents their constituents is what democracy is supposed to be about

    - if gerry mandering of MD is fixed, there is likely (not guaranteed) that enough people in MD will be more likely to elect representatives friendly to 2A

    Anyone that says they are for gerry mandering is a true traitor to our country, anywhere on the political spectrum. Our country is founded on having our elected folks represent their citizens.
     

    randomuser

    Ultimate Member
    Nov 12, 2018
    5,775
    Baltimore County
    Thank you for your reply, and welcome!

    To be clear, I didn't call you out for only having 20 posts, I was commenting that most of your posts, to me, read like someone who might be trolling. I did single out the one post I agreed with.

    Based on your reply above, I see you are just another Maryland malcontent like us, grousing about are situation. I am overly cynical, and likely read many of your post the wrong way.

    Maybe post in what county you live, we often try to have events, and meet-ups.

    Thank you for your service (Ooh-rah!!!) :patriot:

    Liar, Liar, Liar. No honorably Discharged Marine is just an average American!
    Welcome.


    Thanks for the welcome Guys.

    Thanks for the idea, I'll update my profile.

    I'm from the Baltimore County area. Office in Columbia but travel to the different counties for work from time to time, I'd say, probably about an hour in any direction.
     

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