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Old June 16th, 2020, 01:05 AM #1
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Barrell Balance inquiry

Hello,

On a 16" AR HB; when you add a flash suppressor to the barrell how do you keep a good balance ?

Can this done by adding washers?
Does the factory take the extra weight into consideration when they manufacture the barrells?

Thanks,
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I have no idea what you mean.
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I have no idea what you mean.
Most AR HB are top heavy. How does one maintain a balance of the barrells?
Would fluting the barell make that much of a difference?
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I don’t see this inquiry or thread turning out well.

It’s either a communications problem and or an intent problem.

I suggest you go about this differently. Perhaps ask the Chief...
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Most AR HB are top heavy. How does one maintain a balance of the barrells?
Would fluting the barell make that much of a difference?
You don't mean top heavy.You mean front heavy.

If you are bothered by the added weight of a muzzle device, maybe more time in the gym might be a better solution...

...or, buy a heavy stock.
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Maybe the OP means some sort of barrel weights when he says washers?

Heavy stocks can counter the front-heaviness of HBARs, but the better solution is aggressive fluting to get that barrel to weigh less. In fact, it appears the Dvor will be selling the Faxon barrels in a few days:
https://www.dvor.com/faxon-firearms-...le-barrel.html

I think they were ~$250 last time? Not cheap, but fluting does cost significant machine time.
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You can build a pistol if the extra length of a rifle is too heavy.
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A weighted stock may help balance a front heavy HBAR.
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Compared to the goverment profile barrel the extra weight of the 16" carbine barrel is between the hands when the rifle is positioned to shoot. I personally find it no issue with a 16"...and actually prefer the extra weight of the 16" HBAR. On the 18" and 20" barrels the front sight bases are further out. So on the 18" and 20" HBAR's the heavy profile, thus more metal extends further toward the front because the heavy section goes to the front sight base. There are 16" carbine barrels with what is called a midlength gas system. The sight base is extended further out but not to the rifle length, so you may notice it being a little more muzzle heavy.

As far as a muzzle device goes, you won't notice it unless it is one of the larger comps or muzzle breaks. I wouldn't get too work up over the weight on the carbine 16". If the weight is a concern, some of the Colts and Ruger's guns have a slightly slimmer profile HBAR, as well as some of the aftermarkets. My experience has been I only needed weight in the stock for balance when the 18" and 20" HBAR's are used. YMMV. Sometimes you just need to jump in and get your feet wet.
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If you mean the general balance and weight of the rifle, then fluting will help.

Also, a mid-length or rifle gas heavy profile barrel will be heavier and more "front heavy"/ feel less balanced than a carbine gas heavy barrel due to the extra mass up to the gas port.

What I found to help greatly with the added mass of a heavy profile is the Midwest Industries Ultralight Combat Handguard. Perhaps not as "bombproof" as some would like, but it's been rock solid for me and it is crazy light. Currently I have a pretty bare bones build with a 16 inch carbine gas HBAR that comes in at 7.6lb total with the 12.625 inch Midwest industries rail.

Link below.

https://www.midwestindustriesinc.com...-Lok-s/551.htm

Regarding a flash hider, you can get pretty light ones. A standard A2 birdcage will not add that much weight or make it feel totally off balance. That said, the one issue I have with the SilencerCo ASR system is the Flashiders and brakes are so darn heavy.
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