Go Back   Maryland Shooters > The Arsenal > Archery
Don't Have An Account? Register Here

Join MD Shooters

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old July 17th, 2018, 05:00 PM #31
outrider58's Avatar
outrider58 outrider58 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 23,970
outrider58 outrider58 is offline
Senior Member
outrider58's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 23,970
Is this a new bow or used?

For anyone wanting to find their FOC:

https://eastonhunting.com/what-is-f-...-arrow-flight/
outrider58 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 18th, 2018, 12:05 PM #32
Archeryrob's Avatar
Archeryrob Archeryrob is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Fairplay, MD
Posts: 774
Archeryrob Archeryrob is offline
Member
Archeryrob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Fairplay, MD
Posts: 774
I am cocking it with a standard two hook pulley cocking rope. Even pressure on each side. I just ordered new arrows and picked up the KillerTech Pro 20" bolts. I got some feedback on CE bolts not being the best quality for some bows. I have tried switching everything else and messing with FOC and no luck. I changed everything but the bolts and have them coming Saturday, hopefully. People also recommended Spinal Tapps and Black Eagle Executioner bolts. The killertechs fixed similar problems for other people I read about on crossbow sites. and made by the xbow manufacturer, or for them.

Sooner or later I will have eliminated the problem. I got 51 days and 19 hours to fix it. I have come close to just limiting to 20 yards and staying with the selfbow.
Archeryrob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 21st, 2018, 10:08 AM #33
Archeryrob's Avatar
Archeryrob Archeryrob is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Fairplay, MD
Posts: 774
Archeryrob Archeryrob is offline
Member
Archeryrob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Fairplay, MD
Posts: 774
Well, I am happy to report back. I got the KillerTech Pro bolts yesterday, but it was my birthday and I was too busy getting toasted and eating steak to shoot the crossbow.

I set two beer boxes full of mulch up and used that for my broadhead target. First shot at 20 yards in the normal target with a field point an inch right. Then put a G5 Montech and Tocar HBX head though the same hole at an inch right. Luckily after removing the first. Adjusted the scope and back to 30 and 40 yards. All perfect all the time now. The chinese rage knock off are flying perfectly now too. These bolts work perfectly and even shoot flatter than the last one and don't drop as fast.

My entire problem was the Carbon Express bolt didn't shoot out of my crossbow with broadheads.
Archeryrob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 21st, 2018, 05:00 PM #34
wilcam47's Avatar
wilcam47 wilcam47 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: IN IDAHO!!!!!!!!
Posts: 19,510
Send a message via MSN to wilcam47 Send a message via Yahoo to wilcam47
wilcam47 wilcam47 is offline
Senior Member
wilcam47's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: IN IDAHO!!!!!!!!
Posts: 19,510
Send a message via MSN to wilcam47 Send a message via Yahoo to wilcam47
Quote:
Originally Posted by Archeryrob View Post
Well, I am happy to report back. I got the KillerTech Pro bolts yesterday, but it was my birthday and I was too busy getting toasted and eating steak to shoot the crossbow.

I set two beer boxes full of mulch up and used that for my broadhead target. First shot at 20 yards in the normal target with a field point an inch right. Then put a G5 Montech and Tocar HBX head though the same hole at an inch right. Luckily after removing the first. Adjusted the scope and back to 30 and 40 yards. All perfect all the time now. The chinese rage knock off are flying perfectly now too. These bolts work perfectly and even shoot flatter than the last one and don't drop as fast.

My entire problem was the Carbon Express bolt didn't shoot out of my crossbow with broadheads.
nice so they are probably sturdier? Maybe the carbon express is too flexible?
__________________
I cannot imagine how the clockwork of the universe can exist without a clockmaker. ~Voltaire


Air Force Veteran--20yrs 14 days
wilcam47 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 21st, 2018, 05:05 PM #35
outrider58's Avatar
outrider58 outrider58 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 23,970
outrider58 outrider58 is offline
Senior Member
outrider58's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 23,970
Quote:
Originally Posted by wilcam47 View Post
nice so they are probably sturdier? Maybe the carbon express is too flexible?
Yup. Under spined arrows will do that. I just am not that versed on crossbow bolts.
outrider58 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 21st, 2018, 05:08 PM #36
wilcam47's Avatar
wilcam47 wilcam47 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: IN IDAHO!!!!!!!!
Posts: 19,510
Send a message via MSN to wilcam47 Send a message via Yahoo to wilcam47
wilcam47 wilcam47 is offline
Senior Member
wilcam47's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: IN IDAHO!!!!!!!!
Posts: 19,510
Send a message via MSN to wilcam47 Send a message via Yahoo to wilcam47
Quote:
Originally Posted by outrider58 View Post
Yup. Under spined arrows will do that. I just am not that versed on crossbow bolts.
likewise...maybe need to get different bolts on one of the crossbows we are using..
__________________
I cannot imagine how the clockwork of the universe can exist without a clockmaker. ~Voltaire


Air Force Veteran--20yrs 14 days
wilcam47 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 21st, 2018, 07:50 PM #37
Archeryrob's Avatar
Archeryrob Archeryrob is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Fairplay, MD
Posts: 774
Archeryrob Archeryrob is offline
Member
Archeryrob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Fairplay, MD
Posts: 774
The bolts were recommended by one person because Killer instinct has them made for them. I have to use Half moon nocks and I think even though they are factory made they are still indexed and and checked for straightness. Anything under.003 out of line is rejected. Some will sell .001 for a slight increase.

A lot of people suggested buying Black Eagle Executioner or the Spynal Tapp bolts. I am finding out Bolts make the Xbow!!

From what I have read bolts are affected by every archery dynamic twice as bad because of the short length. So do yourself the benefit and buy good bolts! I wasted a lot of time fighting this and hope it helps someone else. These new bolts fly perfectly with every broad head I have. I can go back to my tried and true three bladed heads.
Archeryrob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 21st, 2018, 07:52 PM #38
Archeryrob's Avatar
Archeryrob Archeryrob is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Fairplay, MD
Posts: 774
Archeryrob Archeryrob is offline
Member
Archeryrob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Fairplay, MD
Posts: 774
Bolts are too short for my spine tester. I would need to fit some spacers to measure 20" arrows to see if the CE's bend more.
Archeryrob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 22nd, 2018, 10:46 AM #39
Archeryrob's Avatar
Archeryrob Archeryrob is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Fairplay, MD
Posts: 774
Archeryrob Archeryrob is offline
Member
Archeryrob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Fairplay, MD
Posts: 774
I cut some 2x4's to bridge the gap on the spine tester. Now, its home made and I do not have a spine chart for 20" arrows. It used a 2# weight and a protractor to measure deflection of the arrow being bent by the weight.

This is the amount defelction I got on the bolts I have access too. The Wicked ridges are my daughters for her Wicked Ridge Xbow.

Killertech Pro = 4
WickedRidge bolts by Easton = 6
Carbon Express Pile Drivers = 9

The CE's are probably flexing more on release and causing the broadheads to plan more.
Archeryrob is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

  Home Page > Forum List > The Arsenal > Archery


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:56 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
2018, Congregate Media, LP Privacy Policy Terms of Service