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Old January 2nd, 2020, 03:33 PM #11
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Ok thats good, My next question was going to be about access. So If I am staying local in the Severn and putting in Annapolis like you said will the 16ft john work or should I still be looking for a v shape hull?
Jon Boats are all different.....some are narrow and tippy, some are very shallow draft, and most square nosed ones will beat the snot out of you in any chop!! That being said, I have found most vee-bottomed aluminum hulls are also very tippy.

The 16' Lowe that we had was just the opposite.....it was very wide, hence extremely stable, it had a very high draft (we had to put a shaft extension on our outboard), and the flat bottom formed up into a semi- vee (bow was still square, but bottom was flaired into a vee shape so it cut the waves smoother) in the front.

I believe this is the current version of the boat we had...

https://www.loweboats.com/jon-boats/...specifications


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Old January 2nd, 2020, 03:42 PM #12
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Yes I have. I only saw that I am required to get a residential license and with that I can use trot lines and legal traps. What am I missing?
I haven't looked in a while but I thought some gear was bay only.
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Old January 2nd, 2020, 03:46 PM #13
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Yes, a 14’ Jon boat will work. I got a deal and bought a 14’ v hull with everything I’d need for trot lining. It works just fine.
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Old January 2nd, 2020, 03:53 PM #14
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My recommendation is 14-16ft, give yourself room for a helper/2nd fisherman and gear. Also, I recommend staying away from the flat bottom jon boats. Depending on where your going, I recommend the v-hull to kill some chop, and not get blow around with a heavy wind in a smaller boat. The flat bottom technically gets you into some more shallow areas, but how shallow do you really need to go??
IMHO I'll second this, go for a V hull they ride better. If you are crabbing, use a tiller outboard and not a wheel and throttle. I'll make a guess here that you'll do the 30 open top traps and noodles. Missing a trap and having to reverse course and or back with a wheel and throttle is like eating a taco while driving a stick shift in rush hour traffic.

You can find easy deals especially around the bay for under 1K most likely with a small engine. at most you'll have to rewire the trailer to pass inspection.
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Old January 13th, 2020, 11:51 AM #15
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Check out Jake Phelps on Youtube. He films his crabbing excursions on places like the Chester and Wye Rivers, etc. He uses a v-hull boat that is probably about 16 feet and runs traditional style trot lines. I really enjoy his videos and you can learn a lot from them.
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Hi all,

Maybe not the best forum but figured I would still get some good replies. I am looking to get a boat to do some crabbing and freshwater fishing this summer. Not looking to spend more than a couple $k. Question is will a say 14ft John boat work for both purposes? If not what should I be looking for?

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If you are only going to fish in protected ponds and streams, a jon boat will do fine. If you are thinking of fishing in the Severn, Suski, Patapsco or Bay, you need a bigger boat.

Old Bayliners, especially bowriders, can be found for a good price if you look around. They have bullet proof hulls, so if the engine isn't that good, they are a good boat to re engine.

If you are going on the rivers and Bay, I would look for something in the 18 foot range with good freeboard. The shallow water and winds in this area makes for waves on most days.
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Does anyone with a V bottom find the sides a bit too tall when pulling traps?
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Does anyone with a V bottom find the sides a bit too tall when pulling traps?


I have a 16” V-bottom Grumman that I used to crab out of. My sides would be sore at the end of the day reaching over to pull traps until I started using a hook to grab the float. That boat will be for sale in the near future.


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If you are only going to fish in protected ponds and streams, a jon boat will do fine. If you are thinking of fishing in the Severn, Suski, Patapsco or Bay, you need a bigger boat.

Old Bayliners, especially bowriders, can be found for a good price if you look around. They have bullet proof hulls, so if the engine isn't that good, they are a good boat to re engine.

If you are going on the rivers and Bay, I would look for something in the 18 foot range with good freeboard. The shallow water and winds in this area makes for waves on most days.
Having been out on the bay and tributaries for more than 50 years, with a lot of it in a 16' semi-V with a 50hp, I'm right there with John. I'll even admit to being in on the sinking two jon boats, a 10 and a 14, and we ruined an aluminum 16' deep-V up on the flats when a storm caught us. Broke a brace and pulled a LOT of rivets loose, barely made it back.

Sure, you can stay in sheltered areas and pick your days, but things can go shitty faster than many/most realise and a tide change and/or wind change can make that glassy-smooth surface into 3 foot waves and whitecaps in a few minutes, even on the Severn. With a 16' flat bottom in big water, you'd be surprised how much faster the water can come over the gunnels than one can bail. You'll find yourself going places you never intended to go, just to not oppose the waves.

The size/configuration of the boat needs to match the waters, more so than the task. "Ice cube trays" (flat bottom jon boats) really don't belong on the bay, particularly in the hands of a new captain.
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Old January 14th, 2020, 10:30 AM #20
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Just curious, some of these boat sizes seem kind of small. Are these smaller boats just for one or two people? Does anyone go crabbing with large groups (like four people) in these smaller boats?

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