Wear and carry interview

Kharn · Jan 6, 2020

cbburke said:
I would be curious how they would react once I apply for the permit since I'm profoundly deaf.

Once I have completed everything for the permit, Could they just flat-out deny me based on the policy by the MSP?

How long of a delay are you willing to endure while they try to figure out the interpreter, if you use ASL? Sign language interpreting services for Maryland, click the "see here" link for all the options available under the state contract.

Chowda69 · Jan 8, 2020

pbharvey said:
What kind of gun are you carrying?
Seriously?
If you don’t have a permit yet you’re not carrying anything (is it a trick questions?). If you do have a permit, what difference does it make if you have a super redhawk strapped to your leg or a mouse gun in your pocket?

Phased plasma rifle in the 40 watt range was not an acceptable answer.

Chowda69 · Jan 8, 2020

My interview started at 0955 am, and I was out the door at 1005. I think it just depends on how / why you are applying. For mine, it was clearance / opm breach, so there was nothing to talk about. My investigator didnt even address my G&S. She quickly asked the standard cookie cutter questions and noted that she had to talk to my wife. Called her that same day and boom , passed the process up to Pikesville.

rooster · Jan 8, 2020

Just remember it's all about protecting money not stuff.

BBGO-stokes · Jan 8, 2020

Extramile said:
I have my appointment for interview tomorrow morning. Just wondering if anyone has insight as to what this process consists of, types of info they seek etc? Wanna be prepared. Thanks in advance.

My advise: 1. Be truthful; 2. Don't lie; and 3. Be able to support all the information you provided.

Good luck

onedash · Jan 8, 2020

cbburke said:
I would be curious how they would react once I apply for the permit since I'm profoundly deaf.

Once I have completed everything for the permit, Could they just flat-out deny me based on the policy by the MSP?

unless you are prohibited you will not be denied, you could be found not qualified though which means no permit.

Dragonchef · Jan 8, 2020

Wear and Carry

In Maryland is it true you need a specific reason to legitimately carry, unlike some other states that let Joe Citizen carry without reason as long as said JC isn't a psychological risk of going postal?

welder516 · Jan 8, 2020

Dragonchef said:
In Maryland is it true you need a specific reason to legitimately carry, unlike some other states that let Joe Citizen carry without reason as long as said JC isn't a psychological risk of going postal?

I would beg to duffer in only one portion of your comment . No such thing as carrying without a reason .
A life and God given right should be the only reason you need . If someone don't believe in guns and don't want to carry then don't carry , you want to then please do.
That should be the norm IMHO . :thumbsup:

onedash · Jan 8, 2020

Dragonchef said:
In Maryland is it true you need a specific reason to legitimately carry, unlike some other states that let Joe Citizen carry without reason as long as said JC isn't a psychological risk of going postal?

Yes. -->Has a good and substantial reason to wear, carry, or transport a handgun, such as finding that the permit is necessary as a reasonable precaution against danger.

Dragonchef · Jan 8, 2020

onedash said:
Yes. -->Has a good and substantial reason to wear, carry, or transport a handgun, such as finding that the permit is necessary as a reasonable precaution against danger.

So, "finding that the permit is necessary as a reasonable precaution against danger" is good enough for the MSP to qualify you for a CC license?

rooster · Jan 8, 2020

Dragonchef said:
So, "finding that the permit is necessary as a reasonable precaution against danger" is good enough for the MSP to qualify you for a CC license?

No no no... Other than a provable threat of bodily harm, it must be to protect large sums of money

spitfire481 · Jan 8, 2020

Hoping to get an interview scheduled soon. Application accepted on November 20th. Seems around the 2 month range before getting notified?

Occam · Jan 8, 2020

rooster said:
No no no... Other than a provable threat of bodily harm, it must be to protect large sums of money

No. You can get your permit if - among other things - you own run a very, very small business. And no, it's not about protecting the money. That's not a legal use of lethal force in Maryland. You can only protect life.

Regardless, the "large sums" thing is very incorrect.

mic · Jan 8, 2020

Sptifire, I'm right behind ya. Application accepted on November 26th... Crickets...

rooster · Jan 8, 2020

The size of your business is not the issue. You are protecting yourself. Now the question is protecting yourself from what? Being robbed!!! (In the absence of a "provable" existing threat.) = It's all about the money.

PJS · Jan 8, 2020

rooster said:
The size of your business is not the issue. You are protecting yourself. Now the question is protecting yourself from what? Being robbed!!! (In the absence of a "provable" existing threat.) = It's all about the money.

I don't know where this comes from, other than MSP asking for bank statements to verify the business is legitimate and operating.

I have my MD permit as a business owner and real estate agent, and carrying money/cash had nothing to do with my ability to get the permit. It doesn't hurt your cause, but it's completely false that you need to carry large sums of money, or any money for that matter, to get your permit to carry a handgun in MD.

ConstitutionalCarry · Jan 9, 2020

Chowda69 said:
My interview started at 0955 am, and I was out the door at 1005. I think it just depends on how / why you are applying. For mine, it was clearance / opm breach, so there was nothing to talk about. My investigator didnt even address my G&S. She quickly asked the standard cookie cutter questions and noted that she had to talk to my wife. Called her that same day and boom , passed the process up to Pikesville.

I've heard that the being affected by the OPM Breach was one of the 'good and substantial' reasons you could use... but can it be the only one you need? Does active/inactive clearance status make a difference? :shocked4:

onedash · Jan 9, 2020

ConstitutionalCarry said:
I've heard that the being affected by the OPM Breach was one of the 'good and substantial' reasons you could use... but can it be the only one you need? Does active/inactive clearance status make a difference?

I used the OPM letter as gravy for active TS clearance.

ironpony · Jan 9, 2020

Occam said:
No. You can get your permit if - among other things - you own run a very, very small business. And no, it's not about protecting the money. That's not a legal use of lethal force in Maryland. You can only protect life.

Regardless, the "large sums" thing is very incorrect.

After looking after my bank statements and seeing a three week period that my deposits were electronic she asked me “How can we give you a permit when there is no cash deposits for periods of time?”
I had to show my CC statement showing the cash payments to that.
I’m not trying to be offensive ocean but ... true story!

2ndCharter · Jan 9, 2020

ironpony said:
After looking after my bank statements and seeing a three week period that my deposits were electronic she asked me “How can we give you a permit when there is no cash deposits for periods of time?”
I had to show my CC statement showing the cash payments to that.
I’m not trying to be offensive ocean but ... true story!

I believe there is a great deal of interpretation and misinterpretation of both law and internal policy in this part of the MSP. My process was long and arduous but professionalism and politeness still rules the day. I had an appeal at Pikesville and the case investigator told me I was the most squared away and prepared appeal he had seen in his long tenure in that assignment.

IOW, do your homework if you get denied, get a lawyer if you feel it prudent. I was being denied based on a misinterpretation of definition. They didn't think that federal po-po counted as the police allowance for W&C permits.

The local guy that did my face-to-face was ok up to the point he started to insult me. I thought it was part of the process so played it cool and smiled. I haven't spoken with too many people who've had that experience.

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