Two Hunters Missing on the Severn

pbharvey · Jan 20, 2016

I keep a knife clipped up high in case I need to cut my waders off.
I've been sick about these guys drowning, my son and I were out duck hunting on our little Jon boat last week. If you did go over in a little boat, I think you'd almost be better off towing the overboard guy the 100 yards to shore if he was wearing a PFD. No way you can get someone bulky back in the boat without swamping it.

May they rest in peace.

Mack C-85 · Jan 20, 2016

itsslow98 said:
16ft jon boat....25-35mph winds..........easily avoidable.

This area is known to be nasty in a Northwest wind. It is on the southwest shore of Round Bay, where the river narrows significantly coming south out of Round Bay. Funnels the wind into a narrow space and makes for some rough water conditions.

traveller · Jan 20, 2016

Does anyone make a duckhunting dry-suit ?

Sticky · Jan 20, 2016

Two hunters identified....

http://patch.com/maryland/severnapark/s/fk5hx/hunters-missing-in-severn-river-identified

pbharvey · Jan 20, 2016

My son's age.
That explains their exuberance for taking the boat out in that weather. My son is a very smart kid but has that same sense of adventure. We were talking about this last night and his comment was something to the effect of "well its duck weather."

Sticky · Jan 20, 2016

Round Bay in those conditions in a 14' jon boat demands a life jacket, even for me and I have spent as much time in or on the water as on dry land... it's just foolhardy, not that I've not done some foolhardy things, but.... surviving is paramount.. and as cold as the water is, you have very little time before you're done.

TAstro · Jan 20, 2016

http://m.wbaltv.com/news/two-boaters-missing-on-severn-river-in-edgewater/37510760

Matt and Stephen went to my high school and were in my class. Both really nice guys. Stephen has a wife, 2 sons and one more son on the way.

Rocky BearDog · Jan 20, 2016

Really a very sad event

roady · Jan 20, 2016

That is a tough story to read. RIP guys.

SRD · Jan 20, 2016

Sad situation :sad20:

. Similar to Perry Cohen and Austin Stephanos,the 2 teens that were lost at sea while on a fishing trip,both parties were doing what they loved.

chevellenut71 · Jan 20, 2016

My daughter just reminded me that she went to Prom with them and I have a pic of them all standing in front of Limo. Sad one of the young men had 3 kids and one of them was 4 months old. Real Sad :sad20:

Jim12 · Jan 20, 2016

That's a really terrible, sad story...

Norton · Jan 20, 2016

chevellenut71 said:
My daughter just reminded me that she went to Prom with them and I have a pic of them all standing in front of Limo. Sad one of the young men had 3 kids and one of them was 4 months old. Real Sad

is there a younger brother still at the school?

lazarus · Jan 20, 2016

E.Shell said:
Hypothermia guaranteed. No way to live through submersion at those temps.Especially true this time of year.Great suggestion. This will make recovery of your body easier, lets the rescue folks go home sooner, but if you go overboard this time of year in normal (non-diver) clothing, you are doomed.

I used to be an outfitter in the early 80s and ran sea duck hunts in January out on the Chester River. Air temps in the teens & twenties, water temps in the 30s-40s. The DNR guys would check on us a couple times a day, and warned us with genuine concern that if we went over, even for a few seconds, nothing could save us. I don't think they ever checked our licenses...

While it would suck, you have a lot more than seconds. Just depends on what physical condition you are in and rescue ability. In near freezing water, with self rescue you'd have about 2-4 minutes as a healthy adult before you'd be non-functional and you'd need immediate access to dry warm clothing and/or ability to be taken in to a warm environment. For someone rescuing you, you'd have anything from 5-45 minutes depending on your physical condition.

This is also assuming you are wearing a PFD. No PFD and the times go down a lot (because treading water greatly increases heat loss as well as not being able to physically tread water after a few minutes and you drowning).

But of course with air temps that cold and probably no access to warm dry clothes once you got out, you have a strong likelihood of being screwed even if you only fall in for a few seconds. A dry bag with swear pants, a sweat shirt and a windbreaker in your boat is not a bad idea. Can be used as a secondary floatation device and also something to change in to if you do become wet.

BigBull · Jan 20, 2016

A simple tie down strap will work great here. That is what I use.

iggy · Jan 24, 2016

I use a selfinflating cheststrap type PDF. Its a twofer. Sad to say I have had to use it when I tripped in 2 1/2 feet of water and my legs being full of air meant I couldn't stand back up. I had to pull my cord and backstroke to shore. ALWAYS wear a PDF.

aht2131 · Jan 24, 2016

Very unfortunate. I think sometimes its easy for some folks to get complacent because many of the areas we frequent are not "remote".

_JT_ · Jan 26, 2016

Just awful for all involved, I can't imagine being the buddy who got dropped off at the dock. Things change on a dime on the water, and in the winter there's so many other factors that compound that.

traveller said:
Does anyone make a duckhunting dry-suit ?

http://predatorgear.com/
If i had a spare grand laying around I'd definitely pick one up just to use for waterfowling and late season/early season kayaking.

tomandjerry00 · Feb 2, 2016

Poor guys....

At least they died doing what they loved.

I've been debating buying one of these surplus survival suits for $30, this makes it even more tempting:

http://www.keepshooting.com/multifabs-survival-one-immersion-suit.html

Derwood · Feb 3, 2016

That's pretty cool. I might get one of those for fishing in cold water. But I'd never hunt in a huge orange suit.

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