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  • hodgepodge

    Senior Member (Gold)
    Sep 3, 2009
    10,099
    Arnold, MD
    In the October issue of Gun Tests, they compare 9mm and .45ACP. They look at bullet expansion, penetration depth and recoil delay.

    Their bottom line? The calibers and cartridges are pretty close. Don't worry about the difference.

    .45 ACP wins in expansion, .45 decelerates slower but 9mm recoils less. And guns generally hold more of the 9mm.

    The 9mm Luger Speer 124-grain +P Gold Dot hit with an initial kinetic energy of 423 ft-lbf, while the 45 ACP 200-grain +P Gold Dot hit at 440 ft-lbf and the 230-grain Gold Dot impacted at 311 ft-lbf. The expanded diameters were nearly the same, but the 9mm was lighter, so it decelerated more rapidly than did the 45 ACP.

    So which is better: 9mm Luger or 45 ACP? The answer is that they are functionally identical — the target will not know the difference because the difference is so small. They are certainly better choices than the 380 ACP or 38 Special, but no cartridge will ward off evil spirits or drop a guy with a near miss.
     

    Boom Boom

    Hold my beer. Watch this.
    Jul 16, 2010
    16,834
    Carroll
    Just about any caliber is better than nothing. Each person should use what works best for them. Bigger (or more powerful) isn't better if you can't reliably get rounds down Broadway with it.
     

    Topher

    Ultimate Member
    MDS Supporter
    Sep 8, 2008
    4,818
    Fredneck
    Well damnit...
    Now we don't have anything to argue about.
    Why you'd go and do that.

    Actually that is kind of cool to know thanks for posting.
     

    lsw

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    Sep 2, 2013
    1,975
    Tests similar to this one have been done since modern 9mm pistols started getting really popular around 30 years ago. Many of those tests reached the same conclusion, some proclaimed the .45 superior, others the 9mm. The argument wasn't settled then, and it isn't settled now. Maybe it never will be. certainly not in my lifetime, anyway. 9mm is my choice between the 2 FWIW.
     

    Baccusboy

    Teecha, teecha
    Oct 10, 2010
    13,990
    Seoul
    Because both rounds are too slow to produce a hydrostatic effect, the more important issue is the energy of the bullet, and ability to damage/break into the CNS through its latter half of entry into the person hit. The heavier .45 slows down at less of a rate, is heavier, and wider, while carrying more energy deep into the body. This more easily breaks bones and damages crucial areas behind the lungs.
     

    Baccusboy

    Teecha, teecha
    Oct 10, 2010
    13,990
    Seoul
    I'm pretty sure 300blk is superior and it comes in a pistol.

    Wrong. 300 black-out is just .30 caliber that zips on through the body like an ice-pick.

    The .45 will expand to cover an area the size of a dinner plate, and spray the victim's guts and CNS out over a 50 square-yard area. :party29:
     

    swinokur

    In a State of Bliss
    Patriot Picket
    Apr 15, 2009
    55,486
    Westminster USA
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