I really want this? Socom profile?

ascorb · Nov 20, 2016

I really want this upper, I researched and it says SOCOM profile means HBAR. Does that mean it's legal in MD?

https://apocarmory.com/collections/...n-complete-upper-assembly?variant=25024537991

'04 Cummins · Nov 20, 2016

SOCOM profile is not HBAR

iH8DemLibz · Nov 20, 2016

I read SOCOM/GOVT.

GOVT means No Barrel For You in Maryland.

Doobie · Nov 20, 2016

I've been chasing a similar tail. What I've read and been told, it has to either be stamped HBAR or the marketing literature has to say HBAR. From what I've gathered, it could be a 2" diameter barrel and if its not marked or "marketed" HBAR, its a no go. Someone with much more knowledge and understanding will be along to help with the clear as murky water on a moonless night MD laws.

ascorb · Nov 20, 2016

outrider58 · Nov 20, 2016

Yeah it says SOCOM/GOV Profile. Gov Prof is a no go on any post ban ARs in Md.

ascorb · Nov 20, 2016

dammit I just want a 16 heavy barrel with a 1/7 twist that looks descent, so hard to find

ascorb · Nov 20, 2016

'04 Cummins said:
SOCOM profile is not HBAR

that damn internet searches, going to end up putting me in jail

lazarus · Nov 20, 2016

Hasn't someone gotten an opinion that a bullbarrel is okay? It is certainly a lot diameter than HBAR.

ascorb · Nov 20, 2016

lazarus said:
Hasn't someone gotten an opinion that a bullbarrel is okay? It is certainly a lot diameter than HBAR.

A bull barrel is like 500 pounds, lol. Screw shooting it for home defense just beat the bad guys to pulp with the barrel

lazarus · Nov 20, 2016

ascorb said:
A bull barrel is like 500 pounds, lol. Screw shooting it for home defense just beat the bad guys to pulp with the barrel

I didn't say it was a good idea, I was just saying AFAIK a bull barrel actually is okay. If you look on the MSP registry I am pretty sure you can find one manufacturers model of AR-15 that is a "target" rifle with a bullbarrel and it is okay and I don't think it is advertised as HBAR and it isn't marked as HBAR.

I'd double check, but I wouldn't be too nervous about a bullbarrel being okay.

I'd never do it though. My 20" HBAR is heavy enough, thank you very much.

teratos · Nov 20, 2016

Do you have a pre-ban lower you can stick it on? I bet you have an 80% you finished before 10/2013, don't you?

iH8DemLibz · Nov 20, 2016

ascorb said:
A bull barrel is like 500 pounds, lol. Screw shooting it for home defense just beat the bad guys to pulp with the barrel

There'd be no recoil issues.

Doobie · Nov 20, 2016

lazarus said:
I didn't say it was a good idea, I was just saying AFAIK a bull barrel actually is okay. If you look on the MSP registry I am pretty sure you can find one manufacturers model of AR-15 that is a "target" rifle with a bullbarrel and it is okay and I don't think it is advertised as HBAR and it isn't marked as HBAR.

I'd double check, but I wouldn't be too nervous about a bullbarrel being okay.

I'd never do it though. My 20" HBAR is heavy enough, thank you very much.

My rational mind says a bull/target barrel is ok too, but this is communist Maryland where common sense and rational thinking does NOT exist as far as gun law are concerned. There are those here and elsewhere who insist that to be 100% in the clear, it must be marked or marketed HBAR. From what I've been told and what I've read, there are is no DEFINITIVE answer on what constitutes a HBAR other than being stamped or marketed as such.
I hate MD's gun laws more and more everyday.

ascorb · Nov 20, 2016

Doobie said:
My rational mind says a bull/target barrel is ok too, but this is communist Maryland where common sense and rational thinking does NOT exist as far as gun law are concerned. There are those here and elsewhere who insist that to be 100% in the clear, it must be marked or marketed HBAR. From what I've been told and what I've read, there are is no DEFINITIVE answer on what constitutes a HBAR other than being stamped or marketed as such.
I hate MD's gun laws more and more everyday.

you think with trump as president, it'll start changing?

vinjet700 · Nov 20, 2016

iH8DemLibz said:
There'd be no recoil issues.

True story :lol:

Blkhawk870 · Nov 20, 2016

I've had a hard time finding a 1/7 HBAR as well. I'm going either order a Faxon heavy fluted barrel or pick up a WOA from Engage. I've heard the Faxon are relatively light for a HBAR.

Doobie · Nov 20, 2016

ascorb said:
you think with trump as president, it'll start changing?

We could only hope. However, I'm reluctant to believe ANYTHING gun related will change for the better in the state of Maryland due to the liberal lunatics in Annapolis and a governor who either cannot or just plain out will not take a stand for the 2A community.

ascorb · Nov 20, 2016

Blkhawk870 said:
I've had a hard time finding a 1/7 HBAR as well. I'm going either order a Faxon heavy fluted barrel or pick up a WOA from Engage. I've heard the Faxon are relatively light for a HBAR.

We should get a sticky going for this to help new mds shooters, find them for example links to manufacturers safe for the republic of maryland. It a lot harder to find online with a descent price now a days. I reached to apoc to have thrm advertise there uppers as hbar to make it maryland compliant, if any other members has done that it should all be in one area where we all can go for our ar15 building endeavors

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iH8DemLibz · Nov 20, 2016

vinjet700 said:
True story

An 18 pound Mosin with a T-brake tends not to move when the trigger is pulled.

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