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Drop multiple terrorists That are about to open fire on a crowd of people drawing pictures of the prophet from over 100 yards away while still on your horse
Oswaldo87
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Rumor is manhole covers for the state of NJ.
Magnumite
Ultimate Member
Most likely strip and sell all the components except the frame, which gets destroyed.
Usually, governments contract with dealers or distributors with a clause in the contract that the frame be destroyed IAW BATF regulations. Many of them sell the parts they can salvage on Fleabay or Gunbroker.
Magnumite
Ultimate Member
that is what I was alluding to. At least that have that insight to recoupe funds while still not sellign the firearm's serialized component. Shame to do it that way.
I agree. When I was younger, it was common for officers to buy their service pistols. In many cases, their revolvers were engraved and given to them as a separation memento. F&CK the libs. 
TheOriginalMexicanBob
Ultimate Member
The biggest reason agencies purchase and issue a standardized handgun is liability...or the fear of liability. I believe a well written policy on officer supplied service firearms can be done and stay within legal liability concerns. Some agencies do still have a list of approved firearms that officers can purchase for duty use...at least last I did any research on that.
I found many...if not most officers weren't particularly gun savvy and were happy to use an issued firearm. The more savvy guys would have preferred to provide their own...they tended to be more familiar with the firearm...how it worked...how to properly clean it serviceable and clean and lubed. If it's yours you tend to take better care of it.
I found many...if not most officers weren't particularly gun savvy and were happy to use an issued firearm. The more savvy guys would have preferred to provide their own...they tended to be more familiar with the firearm...how it worked...how to properly clean it serviceable and clean and lubed. If it's yours you tend to take better care of it.
85MikeTPI
Ultimate Member
Will Sig release the MPX in 357sig ? (https://youtu.be/Q_VK6vYkWO0) May indicate if they've lost faith in the round or not. I have several P320s in 357sig, so I can't believe it's totally dead.
cstone
Active Member
I don't believe SIG Sauer cares about the caliber at all. If they sell five times as many firearms chambered in 9mm, than those chambered in .357 SIG, their bottom line profit will remain the same.
Like any caliber discussion, the round is less important than the accuracy of the shooter and firearm. Besides having lots of factory .357 SIG ammunition, the best thing I can say about the round is it is very easy to swap barrels to shoot .40 S&W, which is also considered a caliber falling off in popularity of late. I have a few pistols chambered in 9mm, but will probably carry .357 SIG for the rest of my life. I just have enough .40 S&W brass to reload that I won't need to ever carry 9mm.
If someone today was asking for advice, and they didn't have a source of free, factory .357 SIG or .40 S&W, I would tell them to go all in on 9mm. Learn to reload, and stock up on bullets, powder, and primer over time. Like dollar cost averaging investing, buying components over time keeps you ahead of the inevitable periods of panic.
If you like the MPX, you should try an AR chambered in .357 SIG. For the money, it is every bit as effective, IMO.
Be safe.
Like any caliber discussion, the round is less important than the accuracy of the shooter and firearm. Besides having lots of factory .357 SIG ammunition, the best thing I can say about the round is it is very easy to swap barrels to shoot .40 S&W, which is also considered a caliber falling off in popularity of late. I have a few pistols chambered in 9mm, but will probably carry .357 SIG for the rest of my life. I just have enough .40 S&W brass to reload that I won't need to ever carry 9mm.
If someone today was asking for advice, and they didn't have a source of free, factory .357 SIG or .40 S&W, I would tell them to go all in on 9mm. Learn to reload, and stock up on bullets, powder, and primer over time. Like dollar cost averaging investing, buying components over time keeps you ahead of the inevitable periods of panic.
If you like the MPX, you should try an AR chambered in .357 SIG. For the money, it is every bit as effective, IMO.
Be safe.
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Since reloading and shooting the .357 Sig(and not very well, I might add), this has been an idea I've wanted to embrace. I couldn't think of a better sub-munition than this.
85MikeTPI
Ultimate Member
I do have a Ron Williams DI AR PCC in 357sig, and considering a blowback from AR guy as well as a TNW Aero Survival Rifle. I would still buy a 357sig MPX in a heartbeat.
BigRick
Hooligan #15
I love 357 sig! I think it's a great round. I prefer it over 9mm and 40cal. I also have zero issues reloading it. I decap with a 40 cal die first than run it on the Dillon 650 after cleaning. Zero issues.
85MikeTPI
Ultimate Member
You're more than welcome to try my 357sig AR if there's ever an opportunity.
Look for a red balloon coming from the sewer.
I thought it was dead as I have listed three boxes of factory new in the classifieds for the last few months for $75 and they never sell. I believe that $25 a box is cheaper than before the ammo rush. My wife grabbed these by mistake when I asked her to pick up 357 Mag earlier this year. Maybe I am missing something?
85MikeTPI
Ultimate Member
I picked up 4 boxes of what you're selling when Walmart was closing out their inventory, $10/box. My safe is full of factory 357sig range ammo from before the scamdemic for $14-$16/box that I only use when someone else wants to shoot my guns. I just finished reloading 2500 rounds of 357sig for myself that cost me 12cents a round. So you're trying to sell an already overpriced round to a small number of people that probably know more about the round than most average 9mm/40sw owners know about theirs.
Very few 357sig owners get into the caliber without expecting to reload it, because of the costs. The round is a victim of factory ammo pricing that never allowed new owners to successfully purchase factory ammo inexpensively enough to get the supply/demand to balance.
You might consider offering it up for trades against something you want that can be valued appropriately..
Just my $0.02
Magnumite
Ultimate Member
I believe the cost is what kept 357 Sig from gaining more popularity. Everyone I spoke to about said they were getting barrels in compatible chambering or selling the gun because of the cost of ammo. From a handloader’s perspective being limited to 125 grain and lighter bullets for 357 ballistics didn’t help.
85MikeTPI
Ultimate Member
Why would you want/need to limit yourself to 125gr for 357 ballistics? Isn't that what handloading is all about, doing what you want? I've made rounds with 135gr/147gr/158gr in super and subsonic applications.. I've made "+P" rounds for my 357sig AR carbine, I've never once said "I need to limit myself to 357 ballistics"...
Magnumite
Ultimate Member
The case capacity limits use of heavy bullets. I am just stating what I was told by them once they read up on it. A couple guys wanted to reload just to minimize cost of 357 Sig shooting. They just got different guns or barrels for their Glocks.
So you are saying you drive a 158 grain bullet out of the Sig case as fast as reloaders shooting 357 Magnum staying within safe pressure limits? Those “+P” rounds for SAAMI maximum pressures of 40,000 psi cartridge develop what pressures?
Using the 30% over maximum for a single required proof load would be a pressure of 52,000 psi. Your “+P” overloads would be operating in about the 46k psi range.
So you are saying you drive a 158 grain bullet out of the Sig case as fast as reloaders shooting 357 Magnum staying within safe pressure limits? Those “+P” rounds for SAAMI maximum pressures of 40,000 psi cartridge develop what pressures?
Using the 30% over maximum for a single required proof load would be a pressure of 52,000 psi. Your “+P” overloads would be operating in about the 46k psi range.
85MikeTPI
Ultimate Member
No I'm saying why do I care if my pistol 158gr 357sig rounds are as "fast" as 357mag loads. I am not limited at all in what grain projectiles I load into my 357sig rounds.
And I also said the "+P" rounds were worked up in an AR carbine, not a factory pistol, watching for pressure signs. Do I know what pressures they were? no. Do I know how fast they were from a 16" SS barrel? yes. Do I know what pressure signs are? yes. Do I let anyone shoot them other than myself? no.
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