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Old June 29th, 2017, 04:50 PM #1
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Any .22's fail?

I've seen a lot of articles in which a person uses a .22 of some kind for the defense of self or home. Usually the intruder is killed or seriously injured. Like the 92 year old WW2 vt who used a .22 rifle to shoot and kill burger. Or the case in Savage Maryland where a guy used a .22 to shoot an estranged and divorced husband of his lady when the estranged hubby that had a restraining order against him, kicked in the front door and the current boyfriend shot and killed him with a .22. One round right in the chest.

Growing up in a bad part of D.C., I saw some violence first hand, and in two occasions a .22 handgun was used, and the shooter killed the shootie. I also witnessed the immediate aftermath of two shootings with .22's when I was a police officer in Colorado. None of the shot people were up and around after taking a shot in the center torso area. Yet, when the subject of using a .22 for defense of any kind comes up people go semi nuts and claim it's just one step from suicide. I've even heard the idiotic saying that if you shoot someone with a .22, and he finds out about it, he'll be very angry with you.

So...does anyone have any provable examples of a .22 NOT working in a defensive scenario and resulting in the injury or demise of the defender shooter?

I mean real incidents, not a friend of a brother in law heard of a guy that...

I know there are real LEO's on this forums, not just keyboard commando's, and I would like to hear from them in particular.
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Any weapon is better than none. Then comes shot placement. Hitting a perp in the hand or thigh with a 22LR is probably is going to fail. Hitting him in the heart or eye is probably going to stop an attack.

I don't know of anyone who has used a 22LR for protection. But I can say that I wouldn't want to trust my life on a 22LR, unless that's all I have. Then it would be a full mag dump to ensure the great possibility of success.
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My main concern with 22LR is feeding. Seems more finicky than full size centerfire rounds. That said, I can pepper a moving 8 inch steel circle at 50 yards without a sweat so there's no doubt the lack of power can be mitigated by the fact it's so damn easy to shoot quickly and accurately.
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Old June 29th, 2017, 05:14 PM #4
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My main concern with 22LR is feeding. Seems more finicky than full size centerfire rounds. That said, I can pepper a moving 8 inch steel circle at 50 yards without a sweat so there's no doubt the lack of power can be mitigated by the fact it's so damn easy to shoot quickly and accurately.
The guns in question are Smith and Wesson 317 revolver, S&W model 63 revolver, and Marlin 39 lever action rifle. No semi autos at all. A mix of 8 shot revolves and lever action rifles.
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Any weapon is better than none. Then comes shot placement. Hitting a perp in the hand or thigh with a 22LR is probably is going to fail. Hitting him in the heart or eye is probably going to stop an attack.

I don't know of anyone who has used a 22LR for protection. But I can say that I wouldn't want to trust my life on a 22LR, unless that's all I have. Then it would be a full mag dump to ensure the great possibility of success.
Well that settles it my main defense gun now is my MP5 in 22lr, 25 round mag and the perps chest will look like that carnival game where you have to shoot out the star.
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Not that I make it a habit to mug people... but I sure as heck wouldn't want to be shot by a .22, and someone pulling one would probably deter me from nefarious action.
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Well that settles it my main defense gun now is my MP5 in 22lr, 25 round mag and the perps chest will look like that carnival game where you have to shoot out the star.
Has anyone ever won that game?? Oh so close, so many times

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A cylinder full of Mini Mag or Velocitor out of a 4" barrel will ruin a bad guy's night real quick. Recoil is near zero to keep multiple shots on target.
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It is better than a mean look and has advantages over a sharp, heavy stick (unless you're within stabbing range). That said, it requires much more precision than a larger caliber might. There was a time in my life when my home defense gun was a 10/22 with a 25 round mag of lead round nose ammo. I figured that the lrn gave me the best chance of reaching fatal depth and that I could probably keep every shot between the nipples, collar bone and belly button. When I could afford a 12ga, the Ruger retired.
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If all I had for defense was an 8 shot 22 revolver, I'd do a lot of practicing of accurate speed shooting. I have some 1,500 FPS .22 LR. If you could reliably get 5 of 8 in the 10 ring and 8 of 8 in the 9 ring shooting fast double action, I think you'd be in decent shape. In all honesty though, if your budget is a constraint, I'd get an entry level 12 gauge pump like a Maverick 88 and some 2 3/4" 00 Buck. Five decently placed shots of 00 is like shooting up to 45 rounds of 380 FMJ.


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