GOA alert ATF proposal to change form 4473

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    mac1_131

    mac1_131

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    Jan 31, 2009
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    So this moves what was on two pages to one page? Is that the objection?
     
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    ComeGet

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    Sep 1, 2015
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    mac1_131 said:
    So this moves what was on two pages to one page? Is that the objection?
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    This appears to be the objectionable part -

    Disguised as mere compliance with the Paperwork Reduction Act, the ATF’s proposed amendments to the Form 4473 will record gun owners’ personal information on the same page as the firearm make, model, and serial number.

    Consolidating this information onto one page could pave the way for a future anti-gun administration or bureaucrat to more easily scan or photograph these forms, which are retained by the gun dealer for ten years, and create a de facto registry of firearm owners and their purchased firearms in violation of two provisions of the Firearm Owners’ Protection Act.
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    danb

    danb

    dont be a dumbass
    Feb 24, 2013
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    google is your friend, I am not.
    https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/atf-proposes-changes-to-form-4473/

    Section A

    Running this down from the top, there will be a TON of eye rolls, but a few of these changes are actually beneficial. Here’s why.

    For those of you who aren’t aware, when people cancel/walk away/get denied by NICS or the state POC, the retailer still have to retain the form and fill out the firearms the person attempted to buy.

    That means if someone was looking at a Colt Mustang, fills out the 4473 form halfway and reaches a question to which they may have some trouble answering “no” to, and then they put the pen down and leave, the retailer is still on the hook for filling out as much of the form as possible.

    Very frequently in busy establishments, this can go sideways because a lot of the less regulatory-minded employees will just shred the form or not fill it out and tuck it into the “no sale” folder we are required to keep on hand. They forget to record the details of the underlying item that was to be transferred.

    By making a change that puts the firearm information up front — to be completed before anything else — that eliminates the issue of forgetting to fill out what firearm was transacted.
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    Moving the firearm data and the buyer’s info onto one page is a good move. I like it.
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    I have to eyeroll at GOA. Mostly that link is a typical apocalyptic fundraising link.
     
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    Kharn

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    Mar 9, 2008
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    ATF already shows up at FFLs with a portable document center or laptop and scanner to run the 4473s if they want copies.
    Plus how many stores run E4473 now?

    I agree, fundraising...
     
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    Steel Hunter

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    Nov 10, 2019
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    It makes no difference whether your information is on one page or split between 2000 pages in the digital era. It takes only a minuscule effort to consolidate digital data into searchable formats.
     
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