Muzzleloader Purchases Process
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SavageShooter
Active Member
If I am correct a muzzle loading rifle is not regulated. So a ATF 4473 form does not have to be filled out. You have to be 18 yrs. old to purchase.
Biggfoot44
Ultimate Member
- Aug 2, 2009
- 33,137
Hand over money/ credit card , recieve muzzleloader .
That said , most retailers have their own store policies.
And min 18yo to purchase Black Powder .
That said , most retailers have their own store policies.
And min 18yo to purchase Black Powder .
ToBeFree
Ultimate Member
https://www.muzzle-loaders.com/
Go here,
Find what you want
Buy/Order it
Open it
Fire it
No problem at all.
Legal as Legal can get!
Go here,
Find what you want
Buy/Order it
Open it
Fire it
No problem at all.
Legal as Legal can get!
rgramjet
Ultimate Member
I used a Sports Authority coupon to buy mine, back when they took them.
Coupon excludes "firearms", not muzzleloaders.
Coupon excludes "firearms", not muzzleloaders.
budman93
Ultimate Member
there is no process. you just buy it.
Ranchero50
Ultimate Member
Ditto, refreshing as a MD'er.
jt2100r
Active Member
They are the only guns you can buy like it is supposed to be for all guns.
They are cheaper and have better selections on line.
Keep in mind that this is a freedom that we have to defend vigorously... MGA has tried several times over the last few years to make both black powder guns and antiques regulated the same as modern cartridge guns. No doubt they will try again this session.
jtb81100
Ultimate Member
Another difference is most box stores at least used to actually let you walk out with it instead of needing the clerk/manager to carry it out and hand it to you outside the door.
remrug
Ultimate Member
Someone in law enforcement opened my eyes to the fact that you can legally conceal carry a black powder pistol,because they arent considered firearms
WatTyler
Ultimate Member
This has been covered numerous times here, so you might want to be careful taking this advice. I'm no lawyer, and neither are a lot of law enforcers. But all judges are. To paraphrase a previous comment - If you want to take a chance on doing a term and losing your 2A rights forever, at least conceal carry something more effective than a BP pistol.
jtb81100
Ultimate Member
Yea I wouldnt take that advice unless you want to be a test case.
BAD, BAD ADVICE! Run away fast.
Absolutely run away fast.
Various "antique gun" loopholes were the obsession of an emotionally disturbed former MDS member "he who shall not be named", now deceased.
Here is one thread in which he argues with a lawyer, who at one point tells him,
:
https://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=27365&highlight=antique+revolver
Just forget about such loopholes, and let the delusional rest in peace.
Mike OTDP
Ultimate Member
- Feb 12, 2008
- 3,324
Yes. That is not good ground for a legal battle.
Back on point: I bought my BP revolver online and had it shipped to my house. All quite legal. BP are not considered firearms. The opposite side of the coin, they are also not eligible for the state pre emption of local regulations. I treat my BP firearms the same as all my regulated firearms when it comes to carry, transport, etc.
Biggfoot44
Ultimate Member
- Aug 2, 2009
- 33,137
No , you may *NOT* Conceal a Black Powder/ Antique ! It still falls under the classification of Dangerous Weapon .
Dangerous Weapons may not be carried with intent to ( do bad things , some variation in case law for exact definitions ) . Dangerous Weapons may NOT ever be concealed .
They can be carried with similar parameters as lets say , a rifle or samauri sword . ( Flashback to discussions about LGOC wisdom, take those as starting point , and ratchet up from there .)
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And for general enlightenment , different Statutes have different definitions . In certain contexts , Antiques/ replicas are non-firearms . But for Use of Firearm in crime of Violence , various flavors of Assault , etc , they are .
Dangerous Weapons may not be carried with intent to ( do bad things , some variation in case law for exact definitions ) . Dangerous Weapons may NOT ever be concealed .
They can be carried with similar parameters as lets say , a rifle or samauri sword . ( Flashback to discussions about LGOC wisdom, take those as starting point , and ratchet up from there .)
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And for general enlightenment , different Statutes have different definitions . In certain contexts , Antiques/ replicas are non-firearms . But for Use of Firearm in crime of Violence , various flavors of Assault , etc , they are .
rgramjet
Ultimate Member
Bought my son a CVA Wolf for Christmas. It was on my porch when I got home yesterday. Ordered online.
