Found a Nice BYF44 Last Week

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  • Combloc

    Stop Negassing me!!!!!
    Nov 10, 2010
    7,245
    In a House
    At a local shop. I looked it over and everything looked good to me but the price was way too low. The shop owner said "the stock is mismatched." indicating why the price was so low. But I know a little bit (a very little bit)about these old clunkers and the stock was Mauser proofed. It also looked like it was right for this point in production so I gambled and bought it, not wanting to ask if I could rip it all apart in the shop. Besides, if it turned out that the stock was matching, the price should shoot up about 600 bucks! Anywho, I took it home and disassembled it for inspection and preservation. Just as I suspected, the stock did match except for the handguard which had been made by BRNO in Czechoslovakia. This is common as the handguards are prone to cracking and it very well may have been brought back to the US like this. Everything else was 100% matching, unsanded and nonbubba. I figure the shop owner looked under the handguard and assumed the rest didn't match either. Anywho, I made out pretty good in the end. It has a nice patina and that later war look I like so much. As a bonus, it even has a white glue stock!



































    The non-matching handguard and "DOT" stamp:





    Someone wrote the rifle's serial number under the handguard in pencil. Judging by the style of writing, this was most likely done by an American. But whether it was the man who brought it back or someone else will never be known.



    Under the butt plate was some writing I assume was put there by the man who brought it home including his initials and the year of capture. It wasn't in German service very long.




    And finally, a picture with a few contemporaries, both friend and foe:

     

    Combloc

    Stop Negassing me!!!!!
    Nov 10, 2010
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    Thank you. That's not an original but a made in Germany reproduction. In fact,,the American and Soviet jobbers are reworks (by Government arsenals but still reworks) so that leaves the Mauser as the most original of the bunch.
     

    MilsurpDan

    Ultimate Member
    Feb 1, 2012
    2,217
    Frederick County
    Nice BYF 44! Looks like a great rifle! I love the later war K98k’s. While I was at Chantilly last weekend, I was talking to a dealer friend of mine, and he showed me a MINT all correct, matching BCD 45 a walk in had sold him. I was awestruck.
     
    Jul 1, 2012
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    Looks nice and unmolested... saw BYF44 and of course thought "P.38" but I'll allow it :)

    "As a bonus, it even has a white glue stock!"
    not being a rifle guy, what does that mean?
     

    Combloc

    Stop Negassing me!!!!!
    Nov 10, 2010
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    Looks nice and unmolested... saw BYF44 and of course thought "P.38" but I'll allow it :)

    "As a bonus, it even has a white glue stock!"
    not being a rifle guy, what does that mean?


    Yes, it's the glue used to hold the laminate layers together. The stock is essentially a thick piece of plywood. Usually, they used a red resin glue. That gives most stocks a redish hue. But sometimes, nobody is quite sure why but it probably has to do with supply shortages, they used what is basically Elmer's glue. In those cases, the stock takes on more of a blonde hue as seen here. When looking at the sides fs the stock, that's not so much grain in the wood you are seeing as much as it's layers of the laminate ending. The layers are very thin; much thinner than what we are used to seeing in standard plywood today.
     
    Jul 1, 2012
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    Makes sense, I knew it was laminated but not the significance of the type of glue.
    Interesting tidbit to file away in the brain archives!
     

    lazarus

    Ultimate Member
    Jun 23, 2015
    13,728
    At a local shop. I looked it over and everything looked good to me but the price was way too low. The shop owner said "the stock is mismatched." indicating why the price was so low. But I know a little bit (a very little bit)about these old clunkers and the stock was Mauser proofed. It also looked like it was right for this point in production so I gambled and bought it, not wanting to ask if I could rip it all apart in the shop. Besides, if it turned out that the stock was matching, the price should shoot up about 600 bucks! Anywho, I took it home and disassembled it for inspection and preservation. Just as I suspected, the stock did match except for the handguard which had been made by BRNO in Czechoslovakia. This is common as the handguards are prone to cracking and it very well may have been brought back to the US like this. Everything else was 100% matching, unsanded and nonbubba. I figure the shop owner looked under the handguard and assumed the rest didn't match either. Anywho, I made out pretty good in the end. It has a nice patina and that later war look I like so much. As a bonus, it even has a white glue stock!



































    The non-matching handguard and "DOT" stamp:





    Someone wrote the rifle's serial number under the handguard in pencil. Judging by the style of writing, this was most likely done by an American. But whether it was the man who brought it back or someone else will never be known.



    Under the butt plate was some writing I assume was put there by the man who brought it home including his initials and the year of capture. It wasn't in German service very long.




    And finally, a picture with a few contemporaries, both friend and foe:


    If my wife walks in to the room in the next couple of minutes I am going to have to explain “no honey, I wasn’t looking at porn on my phone. That’s not why I have a raging hard-on”

    Very nice collectionand that k98k is really sweet.

    I don’t even have a WWII collection :-(

    Just an M1 Carbine. My Garand is ‘56 HRA manufacture (but hey, it is real purdy and sweet) and my cut down G98 (someone tried to turn it in to a K98k, but with a shorter forearm) is WWI vintage. But I guess you could consider them WWII as folks would be fighting with something like that.

    I’ve got a real hankering for a WWII vintage 1911 and P38.
     

    mawkie

    C&R Whisperer
    Sep 28, 2007
    4,353
    Catonsville
    Awesome find! Never gave the resin/glue color much thought, the couple of K98ks I have sport the usual reddish colored laminated stocks. Like somd_mustangs I immediately thought P38 but this was a pleasant surprise. You don't see bring back K98ks change hands much these days. And definitely not for anything that could be considered a bargain. Thanks for the great photos!
     

    Doctor_M

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    MDS Supporter
    Looks like a nice rifle.... I'd suggest cutting about an inch off the stock, JB welding on a nice 4x Tasco scope... maybe getting a big old steel rod and turning that into a nifty turn-ed down bolt... finish it off with some a home-spun rustoleum camo paint-job, and you'll have a nice hunting rifle.













    Put down the brick... I'm joking :-)

    Beautiful rifle. Nice find!
     

    Melnic

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    MDS Supporter
    Dec 27, 2012
    15,351
    HoCo
    Nice haul!
     

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    Combloc

    Stop Negassing me!!!!!
    Nov 10, 2010
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    Thanks guys! Yes, it WILL make a beautiful sporter. Jeweling the bolt will be a big step up for how nice it looks.
     

    NebTim

    Leonidas likes Patriots
    Apr 11, 2018
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    Marilandistan
    seems strange they would cut out the wood to make room for the bolt handle, why didn't they just make the bolt handle angle out a little ?
     

    NebTim

    Leonidas likes Patriots
    Apr 11, 2018
    413
    Marilandistan
    just looks like a lot of work, and I don't see an advantage. actually seems like a disadvantage . no wonder they don't make 'em like the used too. lol
     

    Combloc

    Stop Negassing me!!!!!
    Nov 10, 2010
    7,245
    In a House
    Ok, there are reasons. Have you ever been in combat? Ever wished you didn't have stuff sticking way out in the breeze catching on everything you pass by when you're already carrying a bunch of bulky equipment? Have you ever studied how the Heereswaffenamt regulations determined which rifles were to be sniper rifles? Have you ever studied geometry or physics? Have you ever studied , even in a cursory manner, the evolution of the Mauser 98 family of firearms from inception to the end of WWII? There's a whole world of information out there beyond your myopic musings. Do some research, pick up a few books, actually READ them and you'll answer your own questions. To flippantly decide a design feature resulting from 50 years of evolution regarding the most prodigious bolt action design ever conceived by humans is a "disadvantage" simply because you don't understand why it's present shows either extreme arrogance or colossal ignorance.
     

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