Uh oh-i messed up

swollseyba · May 1, 2018

So i purchased a hand gun via buds gun shop and when it arrived to my FFL today, i was informed that it is not on the approved handgun list. I suspect it's because it is a newer design/model.

It never even occurred to me to check (stupid, i know).
It's a ATI FXH 45.

Blue Fin's is my normal FFL. Jamie told me she would call someone tomorrow to see if it could be added to the list.

I could also TRY and return it to Bud's but i'd rather not do that, and my understanding is they don't have to accept the return anyway.

Anyone have a similar experience? I can't be the only one....right?

Czechnologist · May 1, 2018

swollseyba said:
So i purchased a hand gun via buds gun shop and when it arrived to my FFL today, i was informed that it is not on the approved handgun list. I suspect it's because it is a newer design/model.

It never even occurred to me to check (stupid, i know).
It's a ATI FXH 45.

Blue Fin's is my normal FFL. Jamie told me she would call someone tomorrow to see if it could be added to the list.

I could also TRY and return it to Bud's but i'd rather not do that, and my understanding is they don't have to accept the return anyway.

Anyone have a similar experience? I can't be the only one....right?

I'm sure you're not but, it never happened to me personally.

Unless you're willing to wait awhile, I would suggest to call Bud's, explain the situation and see if they'll let you exchange it for something else that is on the roster. If you have your sights set on a polymer framed 1911, though, I understand.

There are several outstanding polymer framed .45 ACP pistols that are good to go in MD but, my hands-down favorite is the Walther PPQ 45. I have never owned a more accurate pistol chambered in .45 ACP, be it a 1911 or any other configuration.

https://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=211125

If you can find one, prices run in the $550-600 range.

Sorry to hear about the troubles. The ATI looks cool and is very reasonably priced.

danb · May 1, 2018

It could be months before its approved.

Id go with door #2, exchange.

I see

Model: FX G.I.
Model Number: ATI-FX-45-GI
Caliber: 45

Under "American Tactical"

Seems likes maybe its already there. It can be hard to find things.

I also see a number of other ATI FX 45 models, one under "
Shooters Arm Mnfr (American Tactical)"

If these are functionally equivalent you may be gtg.

Mark75H · May 1, 2018

I thought it was always months at minimum.

Bullfrog · May 1, 2018

danb said:
It could be months before its approved.

Id go with door #2, exchange.

I see

Model: FX G.I.
Model Number: ATI-FX-45-GI
Caliber: 45

Under "American Tactical"

Seems likes maybe its already there. It can be hard to find things.

I also see a number of other ATI FX 45 models, one under "
Shooters Arm Mnfr (American Tactical)"

If these are functionally equivalent you may be gtg.

Looking at the manufacturer's website, the model you referenced is their steel frame full size GI model 1911. OP bought the polymer frame 1911.

danb · May 1, 2018

Mark75H said:
I thought it was always months at minimum.

The next one is June 11, so it would be minimum 6-8 weeks after that.

danb · May 1, 2018

Bullfrog said:
Looking at the manufacturer's website, the model you referenced is their steel frame full size GI model 1911. OP bought the polymer frame 1911.

Think theyll need a sample?

sxs · May 1, 2018

We had a customer at Scotts Gunsmithing that ordered 2 Wilson 1911s from Wilson and had us handle the transfer. Well, many of their 1911 models were on the list...but the 2 he ordered were not. Well over 7k tied up (they were about 3800 ea). We had to submit them to Pikesville for him. All told, it took probably 3 to 4 months between approval and the new list to come out.

5.56blaster · May 1, 2018

Just keep repeating, Maryland is stupid, Maryland is stupid...........

AlBeight · May 1, 2018

swollseyba said:
So i purchased a hand gun via buds gun shop and when it arrived to my FFL today, i was informed that it is not on the approved handgun list. I suspect it's because it is a newer design/model.

It never even occurred to me to check (stupid, i know).
It's a ATI FXH 45.

Blue Fin's is my normal FFL. Jamie told me she would call someone tomorrow to see if it could be added to the list.

I could also TRY and return it to Bud's but i'd rather not do that, and my understanding is they don't have to accept the return anyway.

Anyone have a similar experience? I can't be the only one....right?

I almost did it. I never really was all that interested in an AR pistol, then I got an email from Primary Arms with a good deal on a sweet looking Titanium Blue AR pistol. I made the purchase (luckily on a Sunday night), notified my LGS for the transfer. Stupid part was I checked the RIFLE banned list on MSP, all clear. Totally forgot the handgun approved list though before the purchase. Well, I remembered to check hours afterwards, and it wasn’t on the Roster. Called Primary Arms as soon as they opened the next morning and they were great to deal with to cancel the order. My LGS also was notified that Monday AM. I lucked out I guess. I was mad I did a dumb thing, but grateful that I realized it when I did and was able to correct it in time. So no, you weren’t the only one, and I doubt neither of us will be the last....

sgt23preston · May 2, 2018

5.56blaster said:
Just keep repeating, Maryland is stupid, Maryland is stupid...........

Merry-Land is NOT stupid...

They do this intentionally to make things difficult & frustrating for gun buyers...

They know EXACTLY what they are doing & why...

Doctor_M · May 2, 2018

Maryland is beautiful... Maryland is historic... Maryland needs to be saved from the folks that spend 3 months a year in Annapolis... they tend to be a combination of both stupid and evil.

erwos · May 2, 2018

danb said:
Think theyll need a sample?

They almost always need a sample for anything other than a caliber change. Some people seem to have dodged this once or twice, but it is the exception to the rule.

Blacksmith101 · May 3, 2018

sxs said:
We had a customer at Scotts Gunsmithing that ordered 2 Wilson 1911s from Wilson and had us handle the transfer. Well, many of their 1911 models were on the list...but the 2 he ordered were not. Well over 7k tied up (they were about 3800 ea). We had to submit them to Pikesville for him. All told, it took probably 3 to 4 months between approval and the new list to come out.

After all the Roster was put in place to protect us from Cheap "Saturday Night Specials". :mad54:

wailer · May 3, 2018

sxs said:
We had a customer at Scotts Gunsmithing that ordered 2 Wilson 1911s from Wilson and had us handle the transfer. Well, many of their 1911 models were on the list...but the 2 he ordered were not. Well over 7k tied up (they were about 3800 ea). We had to submit them to Pikesville for him. All told, it took probably 3 to 4 months between approval and the new list to come out.

This^^ I'm in a similar situation like this now, either see if they are willing to exchange or send in the sample to MSP and wait although it kind of sucks waiting on a pistol as if it is a NFA item.

onedash · May 3, 2018

So do all handguns that end up on the list come from folks who purchased them and wait for approval? Do any manufacturers send any in to get "approved"?

davsco · May 3, 2018

i'm laughing but really should be crying at the idocracy here (on the govt's part). but like sgt23 above said it's surely being done to frustrate gun owners as clearly the govt could just lay out a few things that would make a handgun not allowable in the state vs having to approve or disapprove each and every single model.

Applehd · May 3, 2018

Handgun roster needs to be abolished... another 2A bone Hogan could have pitched...

Ammo Jon · May 3, 2018

If you can find a buyer in a different state you could always have your FFL ship it to theirs.

danb · May 3, 2018

onedash said:
So do all handguns that end up on the list come from folks who purchased them and wait for approval? Do any manufacturers send any in to get "approved"?

Most common handguns are submitted by FFLs. New Glock, CZ, Beretta, S&W, models, for example. Less common handguns require some individual love.

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