If you were buying a Glock 19

alucard0822 · Feb 1, 2017

For a full size, I like the 34 over the 17, the longer slide and barrel seems to balance better for me, and being the nose is rounded it seems to handle and holster easier too. It doesn't get in the way as some longslides do, but has almost an inch more sight radius and barrel to give great velocity. The G19 is pretty much the smallest pistol that still shoots and handles like a fullsize, any smaller and you start hanging your pinkie or palm off of the grip. It's probably the most friendly, quickest handling, easiest to carry pistol without making large compromises. The 17 is a great pistol, but to me is just meh, too big to conceal like the 19, with a shorter flat pignose compared to the 34. Might be a better duty pistol, but just isn't as appealing for range or concealed carry use.

Mdeng · Feb 2, 2017

bama47 said:
Does anyone prefer the 17 over the 19? I have a 19 and thought about getting a 17. and if so, gen 3 or 4?

It depends on what I am using the gun for. I prefer the 19 for concealed carry but prefer to shoot the 17.

As for the OP's question both the gen 3 and gen 4 G19's are great guns. The gen 4 has interchangeable backstraps. You have to decide if the backstraps are worth the extra money.

Personally I prefer the gen 2's but they can be hard to find.

Mdeng · Feb 2, 2017

rob-cubed said:
What no Gen 1 love? Mine is still going strong.

The Gen 4 is a general improvement over the Gen 3, though I don't like the aggressive grip texture as much.

But, it's a Glock. I mean, whichever you choose will likely still be kicking by Gen 7 when they are loaded with self-guided bullets.

Personally I prefer the G19 as the better all-around use but for a range gun the G17 has a marginally better sight radius. Otherwise I can't tell much difference nor can comfortably carry either one without bulky clothing.

A Gen 1 Glock 19 is very rare. They were made from cut down G17 frames. It may sound very odd but there are collectors that will pay a small fortune for a Gen 1 Glock 19.

A little more info on the Gen 1 G19's can be found HERE and HEREand HERE

Hawkeye · Feb 2, 2017

Mdeng said:
HERE

That is badass. I can't believe that guy bought that gun and then another forum member had the original serialized box for it. What are the odds of that?

Wow.

callidus · Feb 2, 2017

Either. Both are fantastic. My Gen4 is a few years old now, and hasn't failed me yet. My Gen3 G23 is great too, but needs a spring replacement, as it's had a ton of rounds through it.

Schipperke · Feb 2, 2017

I'd rather shoot a 17

tomrkba · Feb 2, 2017

I much prefer the Gen4 grip texture over the Gen3 texture. It does not chafe.

If I were buying another G19 today, I would get a standard G19 Gen4. I have the MOS version, but I dislike the RMR. I ended up putting the RMR on my rifle

jeffie7 · Feb 2, 2017

bama47 said:
Does anyone prefer the 17 over the 19? I have a 19 and thought about getting a 17. and if so, gen 3 or 4?

I fell that the 17 is too big. 19 will give you 15 rounds in stock form and IMO is a great size over all.

G4 vs G3? Do you want adjustable grips? For me the G4 without any backstrap fits my hand great, the G3 not so much but it's not bad, the G4 just feels better.

That alone is reason for me to go G4 over G3 but my hand is my hand, gotta find the grip that fits your hand the best.

Z_Man · Feb 2, 2017

i have a gen 4 17 and 19. i think i might be the only one who prefers the etched trigger of the 19 to the flat trigger of the 17 (its entirely to do with grip of my booger hook). otherwise the guns are damn near the same, except the grip and mag (and barrel, but you barely notice that while shooting) are longer. capacity difference is 2 rounds so that's not huge. i really prefer the grip texture of the G4. especially in the summer, and i sweat quite a bit, and the grip texture makes a difference, even when sweaty and dirty i can still get a good positive grip on the gen 4 glock.

or you can get the best of both worlds and get the vickers glock, G3 with the G4 texture fiber sight and the other vickers upgrades (slide stop, mag release... i think there is one more).

the grip shape is not the same on the 19 and 17. if you stand a 19 and 17 magazine next to each other you'll notice the baseplates are not at the same angle, and thus the magazine sits differently. the 19 has an angle where the grip is longer in the front than the back (measured 90 degrees from the bore) where as the 17 is the same. they fit in your hand a little differently. i had the 17 first and the 19 is newer. i can't quite tell which one i like better.

bama47 · Feb 2, 2017

well like I said, I have a 19 gen 4 and a 21 gen 4.

I was thinking about getting the 17. and if so, gen 3 or 4?

davsco · Feb 2, 2017

i've been switching my stash over from gen 3 to gen 4. the stippling/grippyness is definitely better and while i don't really care about the adjustable backstraps, i really like the beavertail option. i'm not good enough to tell the recoil difference, if any, from 3 to 4.

bama, if you already have the 19 maybe consider going two models up to the 34, for a more meaningful vs just a slight diff.

jeffie7 · Feb 2, 2017

Why not a sig 320

redeemed.man · Feb 2, 2017

bama47 said:
well like I said, I have a 19 gen 4 and a 21 gen 4.

I was thinking about getting the 17. and if so, gen 3 or 4?

Do you use the medium back straps on your Gen 4's or none at all? If you use none at all you will probably want to stay with Gen 4. If you use the medium back strap on the Gen 4 then you would be used to and like the Gen 3 (same grip angle). I personally prefer the Gen 1-3 grip angle so I set my Gen 4's up with the medium back strap.

redeemed.man · Feb 2, 2017

davsco said:
i've been switching my stash over from gen 3 to gen 4. the stippling/grippyness is definitely better and while i don't really care about the adjustable backstraps, i really like the beavertail option. i'm not good enough to tell the recoil difference, if any, from 3 to 4.

bama, if you already have the 19 maybe consider going two models up to the 34, for a more meaningful vs just a slight diff.

If you have any gen 3's you need to dump let me know.

Blaster229 · Feb 3, 2017

I think I'll go buy another blue label G19 for under $400 just for the hell of it now, after all this talk. Lol

Hawkeye · Feb 3, 2017

Blaster229 said:
I think I'll go buy another blue label G19 for under $400 just for the hell of it now, after all this talk. Lol

Shut it, you.

bama47 · Feb 3, 2017

boundlessdyad said:
Do you use the medium back straps on your Gen 4's or none at all? If you use none at all you will probably want to stay with Gen 4. If you use the medium back strap on the Gen 4 then you would be used to and like the Gen 3 (same grip angle). I personally prefer the Gen 1-3 grip angle so I set my Gen 4's up with the medium back strap.

whatever came on it. I did not switch them at all. I just started shooting with it right out of the box and it felt great.

bama47 · Feb 3, 2017

jeffie7 said:
Why not a sig 320

Oh hell yeah - that has started me having a change of heart. The sig p320 looks freaking awesome and since i'm more of a sig guy anyway, yes!

I have the P229 E2 now and that's my baby.

redeemed.man · Feb 3, 2017

bama47 said:
whatever came on it. I did not switch them at all. I just started shooting with it right out of the box and it felt great.

So that is the equivalent of a Glock SF. If you get more stick with a Gen 4 or get a SF version of a Gen 3.

Hawkeye · Feb 3, 2017

bama47 said:
Oh hell yeah - that has started me having a change of heart. The sig p320 looks freaking awesome and since i'm more of a sig guy anyway, yes!

I have the P229 E2 now and that's my baby.

I'm also a SIG guy, and I'm waiting with baited breath for the 320-X Carry and 320-X VTAC models to hit the market. Those look awesome.

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