Thanks guys. My neighbor has one, maybe I’ll try to sweet talk him in to trying his before I decide. It does sound like it is up my alley. Something I could carry if that is ever an option. Safe, powerful, extemely reliable and reasonably accurate. For $220-300 including some spare magazines and possibly swapping around some springs that doesn’t seem too bad for something that might get exercise once a year for decades.
P64 thoughts?
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I have both a P-64 and a Yugo M57. I have aftermarket grips on both. I swapped the stock recoil spring for a 20# Wolff on the P-64 before I got the PolishIron grip and it improved felt recoil a lot. I tried the 22# and didn't like the way it slammed the action. Get the spring kit and you'll get three springs to try out. And definitely the PolishIron grip.
I feel that my P-64 is the more acurate of the two, and you can get cheap ammo for it at Academy. That said, the P-64 is my home carry and the M57 is my "fun gun" for the range. It's the difference between a wife and a mistress, IMO. Just sayin...
I feel that my P-64 is the more acurate of the two, and you can get cheap ammo for it at Academy. That said, the P-64 is my home carry and the M57 is my "fun gun" for the range. It's the difference between a wife and a mistress, IMO. Just sayin...
Abulg1972
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I have both a P-64 and a Yugo M57. I have aftermarket grips on both. I swapped the stock recoil spring for a 20# Wolff on the P-64 before I got the PolishIron grip and it improved felt recoil a lot. I tried the 22# and didn't like the way it slammed the action. Get the spring kit and you'll get three springs to try out. And definitely the PolishIron grip.
I feel that my P-64 is the more acurate of the two, and you can get cheap ammo for it at Academy. That said, the P-64 is my home carry and the M57 is my "fun gun" for the range. It's the difference between a wife and a mistress, IMO. Just sayin...
So the p64 makes you feel a sense of obligation and snaps at you every time you want to have fun? And it never lets you go play with the m57?
I am confused
I do have an HQL, but I really want to give my C&R some justification for ownership. Preferably without breaking the bank. I mean, it doesn’t stop me from getting a Makarov/Combloc clone later, right?
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I passed on buying a Nagant revolver when they were 99 bucks, because they were plentiful. I passed when they were 129, because I thought that the supply was plentiful, and I'd get one when I had some extra money.
Wrong, just wrong. I've learned that when it comes to C&R, the supply always evaporates, and if you don't get in early, you pay for delay.
I've just about convinced myself to get another P64. Maybe next week . . .
Wrong, just wrong. I've learned that when it comes to C&R, the supply always evaporates, and if you don't get in early, you pay for delay.
I've just about convinced myself to get another P64. Maybe next week . . .
So the p64 makes you feel a sense of obligation and snaps at you every time you want to have fun? And it never lets you go play with the m57?
I am confused
Relax! I'm fine because I don't let the P-64 know about the times with the M57 and vice versa. They're "friends;" sometimes I take them both out and egg them on to see who does better.
I won't do an HQL. I spent too many formative years in the America of times past.
HQL = administrative bullsh1t IMO. Fsck 'em.
I still haven’t used my HQL. I got it because I am going to Alaska and originally the trip plan would have had back country hiking and my wife relented and said I could get a .357 or 10 auto. Some choices on the former for C&R. None on the later. So I got my HQL well in advance. Trip plan changed. All guided stuff and she doesn’t want me bringing a handgun.
So it may be a long time before I actually use my HQL to buy a handgun. It’ll probably happen some day.
So it may be a long time before I actually use my HQL to buy a handgun. It’ll probably happen some day.
Abulg1972
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Sounds like you need a good divorce lawyer.
I love her, but there are days
I mean, she has relented in me buying a WWII era handgun (M57. Close enough, right?)
She was raised a liberal vegan. So, relenting on ownership of guns is a long way.
Even if she is a stick in the mud a lot of times.
Abulg1972
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I love her, but there are days
I mean, she has relented in me buying a WWII era handgun (M57. Close enough, right?)
She was raised a liberal vegan. So, relenting on ownership of guns is a long way.
Even if she is a stick in the mud a lot of times.
No. M57. Commie rattle trap. Get her to agree to a 1911A1 and then she gets points.
GuitarmanNick
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Some days I am so glad that I am very happily divorced!
In the immortal words of William Wallace,... "FREEDOM"!
In the immortal words of William Wallace,... "FREEDOM"!
M57. Yugo rattle trap = well made.
Made of cast iron; runs on coal; does exactly what it was designed for adequately; cheap.
No downside that I can see. But I'm biased.
M57. Yugo rattle trap = well made.
Made of cast iron; runs on coal; does exactly what it was designed for adequately; cheap.
No downside that I can see. But I'm biased.
I haven’t shot one, but the same Neighbor has an M57. Feels good in my hand and seems really well made. Tigger felt fairly light and breaks pretty clean. The SR1911 I’ve shot before is still my favorite handgun by a lot, but the M57 wasn’t all that far behind just playing with it.
Now I am also playing the Cz50 or P64 game. Really expensive and rare magazines along with slightly more expensive ammo, but maybe a nicer shooter and a nicer feeling tool is what I see with the Cz50.
I probably won’t be able to swing all 3 and I am dead set on an M57.
Abulg1972
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I love my Cz50. Neat little gun, and cheap.
I might get flogged for this, but my favorite lady pistol is my Ortgies 7.65 m/m
Nice!!!!
I just ordered another one today from SOG. You guys talking about them made me want another one.
Anybody know if they can be converted to .380 or better yet 9X19?
Anybody know if they can be converted to .380 or better yet 9X19?
GuitarmanNick
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I do not know of any conversions for .380 or 9 x 19mm for the P-64.
FYI: Never try 9 x 19mm. They are too long and will not chamber.
9 x 18 Makarov bullets are .364" while 9mm/.380 are .355". I do know that in a pinch, you can chamber and fire .380 rounds and the P-64 will function but I would only do that in an emergency. The .380s smaller diameter will cause the bullet to tumble resulting in poor accuracy. Long term use of .380 rounds will wear the barrel prematurely.
FYI: Never try 9 x 19mm. They are too long and will not chamber.
9 x 18 Makarov bullets are .364" while 9mm/.380 are .355". I do know that in a pinch, you can chamber and fire .380 rounds and the P-64 will function but I would only do that in an emergency. The .380s smaller diameter will cause the bullet to tumble resulting in poor accuracy. Long term use of .380 rounds will wear the barrel prematurely.
54rndball
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9mm May gives a lot more punch than a .380, so get some of that Russian Brown Bear ammo or reload it yourself. I have P64s, CZ82s, and an East German Mak. They are great guns.
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