Group buy on PTR 91F

nebula8080 · Aug 6, 2008

Just testing the waters here...we'd need admin approval first, etc.

How many people would be interested in a PTR 91F (18 inch) group buy? I need 12 lucky volunteers. I am still checking into the exact discount, but all initial discussions point to under $1000 (+ MD Tax/App Fee).

Model deviations are not available...it would have to be the 91F ('cause that's the one I want!)

Please no PM's...all info/questions post here in the thread. Thanks!!

:gun1:

mdjamesd · Aug 6, 2008

You .....can't you see the economy is taking a giant dump, and my work has slowed, and I'm not getting my 20+ hours of O/T every 2 weeks!

Otherwise, I'd be all over this in a heartbeat. Ever since I shot Jeepdriver's 2 group shoots ago..I can't get it out of my mind

mikec · Aug 6, 2008

Is this going through a particular FFL or are you talking to a distributor/factory? IF a FFL, where are they? What do they charge for transfer fee?

What is the time frame?

Don't put me down yet, let me think...

Is this limited to 12 or is 12 the minimum to get a price break?

nebula8080 · Aug 6, 2008

This would be going through a FFL buying direct from the factory. FFL is located a bit north of Baltimore. Fee is TBD, but from all my past dealings..it would be VERY reasonable. I'll check and see if I can get some more clarification on this fee.

Time frame would be as soon as eleven (me + 1) say "I'm in" and I can work out the final pricing. I'd like to get an idea of the interest level though by next monday if possible.

12 was the minimum to get the price break.

nebula8080 · Aug 6, 2008

mdjamesd said:
You .....can't you see the economy is taking a giant dump, and my work has slowed, and I'm not getting my 20+ hours of O/T every 2 weeks!

Otherwise, I'd be all over this in a heartbeat. Ever since I shot Jeepdriver's 2 group shoots ago..I can't get it out of my mind

I do what I can! Its a beautiful rifle... Also the price of accessories (Genuine G3 mags, etc) have come way down in price. I'm tired of drooling over them...

JeepDriver · Aug 6, 2008

BUMP FOR A GREAT PRODUCT!

Anyone questioning PTR's quality, DON'T
Anyone questioning PTR's Customer service DON'T

They are top notch!

I've had mine since 2005, it eats anything that you'll feed it. Mags are cheap and reliablity can't be questioned!

Mine is a 16" with a wide forearm & OD Green Drua Coat on the furniture

mdjamesd said:
Ever since I shot Jeepdriver's 2 group shoots ago..I can't get it out of my mind

So I should bring it to the shoot in October? :party29:

Bring the ammo and I'll have the guns!

I'm in a 308 mood, I'm heading to Elk Neck Friday with the M1A for some trigger time! I need some recoil !

h2u · Aug 6, 2008

Don't forget it also has the second best ejection of a shell (distance)..... :innocent0

JeepDriver said:
BUMP FOR A GREAT PRODUCT!

Anyone questioning PTR's quality, DON'T
Anyone questioning PTR's Customer service DON'T

They are top notch!

I've had mine since 2005, it eats anything that you'll feed it. Mags are cheap and reliablity can't be questioned!

Mine is a 16" with a wide forearm & OD Green Drua Coat on the furniture

So I should bring it to the shoot in October?

Bring the ammo and I'll have the guns!

I'm in a 308 mood, I'm heading to Elk Neck Friday with the M1A for some trigger time! I need some recoil !

JeepDriver · Aug 6, 2008

h2u said:
Don't forget it also has the second best ejection of a shell (distance).....

I'll kick your's and Norton's asses! OH wait, Norton can't preform, that's been proven, you want to come out and play little man ? ? ? ? ?

BTW: When was the last time you shot a centerfire rifle ? ? ? :lol:

zoostation · Aug 6, 2008

I don't think it needs regulated firearm paperwork either. It doesn't have a collapsible stock so it's not a HK-91 A3 copy. Just my opinion.

Direct from the list. These are the only HK's (and their copies) specified as regulated firearms. Very specific about which HK's are regulated:

(xxv) Heckler and Koch HK-91 A3, HK-93 A2, HK-94 A2 and A3;

JeepDriver · Aug 6, 2008

only HK's (and their copies) specified as regulated firearms

It's a direct copy of the HK91, it used (and the PTR's come with) HK Stamped Bolt carriers.

They are regulated.

zoostation · Aug 6, 2008

JeepDriver said:
It's a direct copy of the HK91, it used (and the PTR's come with) HK Stamped Bolt carriers.

They are regulated.

With all due respect Jeep I beg to differ. The law specifies the HK91 A3 as a regulated firearm. Not all HK91's. If the intent was to regulate all HK91's then they could have written the law that way. I realize most dealers will want to do regulated paperwork on it as a CYA, but it's really not regulated, IMHO.

DD214 · Aug 6, 2008

zoostation said:
With all due respect Jeep I beg to differ. The law specifies the HK91 A3 as a regulated firearm. Not all HK91's. If the intent was to regulate all HK91's then they could have written the law that way. I realize most dealers will want to do regulated paperwork on it as a CYA, but it's really not regulated, IMHO.

I agree. Selling a non-collapsible stock HK-91 (or clone) as regulated would be the same as selling a non-folding stock Mini-14 as regulated. It is the exact same situation, and clearly specified in MD code.

...IMHO.

DD214 · Aug 6, 2008

Oh, and as I mentioned in another thread, I know of at least one FFL in MD that sells non-collapsible stock PTR-91s (and clones) as unregulated. As he pointed out to me a while back, no collapsible stock = no 77R.

JCB003 · Aug 6, 2008

I just got one...It's waiting for me to pick up - hopefully one day this week or definately Saturday.

DD214 · Aug 6, 2008

I was thinking about the regulated HK-91 issue a while back, and I found it ironic that many dealers would sell an HK-91 A2 as regulated even though it is not on the list, but would sell a Bushmaster HBAR AR as non-regulated even though the list of regulated weapons clearly states: "(xi) Bushmaster semi-auto rifle;". Go figure. :shrug:

3rdRcn · Aug 6, 2008

I would want to know a firm price and what FFL this is going through before I could commit to getting one. The price you mention would be an excellent price for this rifle and I could use one in my safe.

I am going to be very cautious in giving you any commitment not knowing who I would be dealing with though.

bean93x · Aug 6, 2008

a local shop had a used PTR-91 i really liked but $1k is way out of my league

h2u · Aug 6, 2008

JeepDriver said:
I'll kick your's and Norton's asses! OH wait, Norton can't preform, that's been proven, you want to come out and play little man ? ? ? ? ?

Ouch. I resemble that!!... Hurt my little feelings and all

BTW: When was the last time you shot a centerfire rifle ? ? ?

Boy Scouts - maybe????
Enough of these truths - don't you have some SOT paperwork to take care of?????

gunconnection · Aug 6, 2008

http://www.mdsp.org/downloads/assault_weapons.pdf

I agree with Jeepdriver. This rifle is a direct copy of a HK91 and if I were doing the transfer/sale, I would definitely consider this rifle to be regulated.

zoostation · Aug 7, 2008

direct copy of the HK91 yes. Direct copy of the HK91 A3 that is what MD specifically regulates, not at all.

The list is very specific regarding the HK versions that are regulated.

Heckler and KOCH HK-91 A3, HK-93 A2, HK-94 A2 and A3

(Okay, beating a dead horse I know, I'm done............)

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