Is FFL123 a joke?

jtb81100 · Mar 15, 2016

tball said:
Hook up with a liquor store and cigarettes and call the store ATF. People will come from all around for the novelty. I bet you would get a lot of free publicity too.

There is at least one of those in WV. Can't remember the name, but I stopped for a soda when running around near Charleston a few years back. Kind of was like a Highs with guns.

Ridler12 · Mar 15, 2016

let me know how it turns out.

Here's the response I got from FFLtrust.com.
I asked him why his business picture doesn't match what google earth shows is at that location, which is the DMV and the country sheriff's office.

here's his response.

"First, we are not affiliated with FFL123.com.
Second, the address on the site is my HOME. The address of the building is listed right next to it.
Third, if your attempt it to blackmail / extort / slander / defame our company, rest assure I WILL TAKE APPROPRIATE LEGAL ACTION.
Regards
Henry"

Check out both websites, they are the same company. Somethings odd.
FFL123.com
&
FFLTRUST.com

rseymorejr · Mar 15, 2016

Ridler12 said:
let me know how it turns out.

Here's the response I got from FFLtrust.com.
I asked him why his business picture doesn't match what google earth shows is at that location, which is the DMV and the country sheriff's office.
here's his response.

"First, we are not affiliated with FFL123.com.
Second, the address on the site is my HOME. The address of the building is listed right next to it.
Third, if your attempt it to blackmail / extort / slander / defame our company, rest assure I WILL TAKE APPROPRIATE LEGAL ACTION.
Regards
Henry"

Check out both websites, they are the same company. Somethings odd.
FFL123.com
&
FFLTRUST.com

Henry seems a little bit touchy, doesn't he?

gwchem · Mar 15, 2016

There's a liquor and gun shop here in St. Mary's county. Its a gas station, too. Good beer selection.

Ridler12 · Mar 16, 2016

just a tad bit. yes...
"I think he doth protest too much"
hahaha

Norton · Mar 16, 2016

Just for the record....the owner of that site sent us a threatening email to remove the links and to cease and desist this discussion.

Fvck if I would ever consider using that service.

rseymorejr · Mar 16, 2016

All the information that you need is on the ATF website, for free.

DaemonAssassin · Mar 16, 2016

Norton said:
Just for the record....the owner of that site sent us a threatening email to remove the links and to cease and desist this discussion.

Fvck if I would ever consider using that service.

They are keeping it classy... :rolleyes:

whistlersmother · Mar 16, 2016

Norton said:
Just for the record....the owner of that site sent us a threatening email to remove the links and to cease and desist this discussion.

Fvck if I would ever consider using that service.

From what I gather from this thread, his service is actually worth it if one wants to get into the FFL business and doesn't know where to start.

Why would the owner of that site turn down free advertising ON A GUN SITE?

Sheesh, sounds like he's the guy that complained to A1 a few days ago about not responding to e-mails quickly enough. Sheesh. :sad20:

DaemonAssassin · Mar 16, 2016

whistlersmother said:
From what I gather from this thread, his service is actually worth it if one wants to get into the FFL business and doesn't know where to start.

Why would the owner of that site turn down free advertising ON A GUN SITE?

Sheesh, sounds like he's the guy that complained to A1 a few days ago about not responding to e-mails quickly enough. Sheesh.

People get butthurt over anything that can even remotely be a question about their company. How they handle the situation is another story entirely.

alex1128762000 · Mar 16, 2016

Ridler12 said:
Hey guys,

I know this is an old post. However, I would like to revive it if I could. there are some new points that have come up in regards to FFL123 and I wanted to know if there were any real people here that had real results with the company.

They now have a second web site business called "FFLTrust.com" that is the exact same site, with the same pics of the product. When I e-mailed FFL123 and asked about this, here's the exact response I received"

"They are try to steal my content, sorry for the confusion."

????

yeah, sounds like someone from Nigeria is answering their e-mail.

FFLTrust has a nice pic of their HQ, but google earth shows the neighborhood is actually county buildings.

FFL123 has a nice pic of their HQ with signage, but google earth shows the buildings have no signs on them.

There's an old Italian saying, "if the head of the fish stinks, the whole fish stinks"

just that they would have ANY deception tells me they are not trustworthy.

BUT

if anyone here has real world dealings with them, I would like to know if after a few years of having your FFL if you have faced any problems having used this company to attain it.

Thanks.

I used them to get my FFL. I can't complain. They gave me a comfort of knowing the process with a few extra pointers. I think it was worth it. But it is just my opinion.

jc1240 · Mar 17, 2016

Norton said:
Just for the record....the owner of that site sent us a threatening email to remove the links and to cease and desist this discussion.

Fvck if I would ever consider using that service.

I'm equally confused as others. Real discussion on whether or not the site is legit; mostly "yays," and this guy complains?

Maybe he's been battered by too many lefties and it's left him sensitive. :shrug:

Norton · Mar 17, 2016

The guy sent this to our server host knowing full well that the server company would pressure the site owner to remove it.

Hello,

Please take care of the following abuse email we received as soon as you can,
thank you.

=========== COMPLAINT STARTS HERE ============
Received on Mar/16/2016 1:36:39AM
To Whom it May Concern,
It has come to our attention that the URL:
http://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?p=4269427 is causing damage to
our website. As the intermediary, you are liable.
For the avoidance of
doubt, the URL http://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?p=4269427 make
false and malicious statements about our business.

We intend to take
the following course of action:

1. pursue court action;
2. pursue
damages as a result of the above URL; and
4. enforce a Court Order to
have your website permanently removed as well as damages (including
statutory damages and attorneys fees) collected from you, including
internationally as needed
Govern yourself accordingly.

Regards

Henry

eruby · Mar 17, 2016

Norton said:
The guy sent this to our server host knowing full well that the server company would pressure the site owner to remove it.

I read that blurb in the voice of the message I got from the 'IRS' stating a lawsuit would be filed against me.

jtb81100 · Mar 17, 2016

The definatly appear to be different companies. One is based in TX, the other in SD.

To Henry: your idiotic cease and desist bs is doing more harm to your company then anything that has been discussed in this thread. Stop being a douche, it just gives people a reason NOT to support your company.

Z_Man · Mar 17, 2016

is the nasty email from ffl123.com or ffltrust.com?

jc1240 · Mar 17, 2016

Z_Man said:
is the nasty email from ffl123.com or ffltrust.com?

I just got it straight in my head.

ffl123.com's owner is Brandon L. Maddox

ffltrust.com's owner is Henry Jackson and the nastygram is from ffltrust.com/Henry.

fightinbluhen51 · Mar 17, 2016

Norton said:
The guy sent this to our server host knowing full well that the server company would pressure the site owner to remove it.

Well, alrighty then. I've been thinking about doing this as well. Have a business game plan. Some info here is definitely good to know.

What's worse is, I was thinking of using his products. I also know full well that all the info is on the ATF website.

This isn't source code to the JSF. Thanks Norton! No way I'd choose him over MDS.

fightinbluhen51 · Mar 17, 2016

jc1240 said:
I just got it straight in my head.

ffl123.com's owner is Brandon L. Maddox

ffltrust.com's owner is Henry Jackson and the nastygram is from ffltrust.com/Henry.

I'll walk it back a bit then.

Thanks for clarifying. One thing about MDS ownership, they love ALL rights, even though they own the forum and the content.

rbird7282 · Mar 17, 2016

Norton said:
The guy sent this to our server host knowing full well that the server company would pressure the site owner to remove it.

Anybody else notice Henry can't count?
Numbered items 1,2,4. I'm no math genius but last time I checked there should be a 3 somewhere, lol

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