rj1974
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I have HKs , Glocks, Sigs and Colt 1911s and others . My handgun that is always with in arms reach at home is my Ruger GP100 and a few speed loaders.
Most reliable handgun right out the box?
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For a semi-auto, I'd also have to go with HK - out of the box and running.
Zee Germans are good at building schit that just works.
Have had my USP since the early 2000's, have yet to have a malfunction of any kind with it. None of my other handguns can say that.
Zee Germans are good at building schit that just works.
Have had my USP since the early 2000's, have yet to have a malfunction of any kind with it. None of my other handguns can say that.
ma_deuce
Ultimate Member
Yeah, M-19s suck. I'd be glad to take it off your hands so it doesn't stink up your safe/sock drawer/whatever.
Seriously, though, did you ever get it fixed? If so, what was the issue?As I was reading through this thread, I was thinking to myself that if I had to pick any one of my handguns as THE one to rely on, it would be my 19-4 Combat Magnum.
clandestine
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My comments are more in relation to current offerings. Glock has really screwed the pooch with their late model 3rd Gen and newer 4th Gen Variants. They just are not the gun they used to be.
SIG has followed the same path. They are expensive guns, now made in the U.S. with less Q.C. than before, and a higher price tag every year.
That's why (Bolded) you look at it the way you do. You have a German SIG. Besides the 2 Piece SLides needing New Pins they are SIG perfection. Replace the Recoil Springs and Slide Pins and that 228 will probably outlive you.
Gun Manufacturers are like any business. They do some things well (Certain Models), or have Outstanding Customer Service/Support, or rarely break, etc.... They also improve sometimes and fail at other times. A person has to ALWAYS keep their finger on the "pulse" of current production Firearms. A name does not always equal quality.
If you handed me a German 226 SIG, a Gen 1 or 2 Glock 17, and a USP I would have a hard time saying the HK is more reliable.
HK has been extremely consistent over the years making guns that don't skimp on Q.C. Their price reflects that but so does their reliability. Now if you need Customer Service or Parts, they drop the ball ALOT on that angle. HK's are usually laser beam accurate. The Tactical Models can rival the accuracy of a 4K 1911 and still remain reliable. Im an HK Owner as well but I have seen the parts issue and bad C.S. first hand.
SIG is very hit-miss on current Q.C. and the guns are still expensive. Current U.S. Built SIGs can sometimes need fluff and buff work they never needed in the past. I never used to see them for these kinds of issues. I wont own a new production SIG until I see things turn around.
Glocks C.S. has always been great in my experience but the guns, like SIG seem to have less Q.C. and use cheaper made parts then ones of old. They still haven't sorted out the Gen 4 issues despite what some Glock Fanboys proclaim (BTW, Im a glock owner too, but I can admit their shortcomings, I wont own a Gen 4, EVER)
Stein79
Surf&Turf
Any opinion on how Springfield XD/XDM fits in there? Just curious as I've been happy with mine.
akkiller
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NickZac
Ultimate Member
H&K's USP platform and the very similar platforms used on the P30/HK45. Any gun can have issues out of the box, but H&Ks are incredibly consistent, incredibly durable, and incredibly reliable.
Glocks are often depicted as the toughest guns, and while they are most certainly tough as hell and reliable (gen 4 being a little iffy), the abuse the USP platform can withstand is almost beyond belief...for example, it can withstand certain things that many other firearms could not, such as firing through a squib round without any reliability loss and almost no accuracy loss... (see Mk 23 and USP "torture tests"). The current P30 has been stress-tested to 100k rounds with only one service interval which included a few springs being replaced (about $19 worth of parts and 15 minutes of DIY work), and people have taken USPs to over 100k with literally every original part including the original recoil springs. It is worth noting tho that for P30's with the heavier trigger configurations, weaker 115gr 9mm may not cycle all that well, at least initially.
So while there are a lot of very reliable guns, I personally vote H&K. I love my USPs.
Glocks are often depicted as the toughest guns, and while they are most certainly tough as hell and reliable (gen 4 being a little iffy), the abuse the USP platform can withstand is almost beyond belief...for example, it can withstand certain things that many other firearms could not, such as firing through a squib round without any reliability loss and almost no accuracy loss... (see Mk 23 and USP "torture tests"). The current P30 has been stress-tested to 100k rounds with only one service interval which included a few springs being replaced (about $19 worth of parts and 15 minutes of DIY work), and people have taken USPs to over 100k with literally every original part including the original recoil springs. It is worth noting tho that for P30's with the heavier trigger configurations, weaker 115gr 9mm may not cycle all that well, at least initially.
So while there are a lot of very reliable guns, I personally vote H&K. I love my USPs.
stu929
M1 Addict
I have all the parts for my sistema with the exception of the sights just need a time.
Also ran into a snag with a barrel hoping you can clarify.
Also ran into a snag with a barrel hoping you can clarify.
Chasbo00
Active Member
baconsandwich
master of the obvious
Yeah, M-19s suck. I'd be glad to take it off your hands so it doesn't stink up your safe/sock drawer/whatever.
I was actually able to fix it myself. I don't know the technical terms to describe it, but I popped the cover off (yes I knew not to pry it) and just looked in there. One little link of the mechanism that moves to turn the cylinder looked like it had popped out of position. I put it back where it looked like it belonged, reinstalled the cover, and it worked fine. No problems since!
FWIW there's only one way to get that M19 from me,
SCARCQB
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Immune to limp wristing issues that will jam othet Glocks.
grayson71
Ultimate Member
Gen 2 Glock 19
I read an article years ago when the HK USP 45 was a new pistol on the block. It went up against SIG Glock 1911's and Ruger. The HK was the most Reliable pistol out of the box with all types of ammo The only complaint was the HK USP 45 was a large pistol for shooters with small hands
ted70
Member
Xd 9 & 45 +3k rounds each not one problem..also eats everything I feed it..
clandestine
AR-15 Savant
Well have to hold off for a short time on the work. Scott has put a hold on taking anything in because things are so busy.
Before the cutoff my workload was significant. Im trying to put a dent in the rack of firearms.
clandestine
AR-15 Savant
Very lubricant sensitive in my experiences with them. I have never been impressed with XD or the XDM platform.
stu929
M1 Addict
Is there somewhere I can send you a pic so that I could at least get some guidance?
smores
Creepy-Ass Cracker
The only thing I've ever seen that stopped a USP .45 was a split steel case (Wolf). I put the rear sight on the edge of my workbench and extracted it... no worries.
But it was STUCK... hand pressure would not remove it. No fault of the pistol's design at all.
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