MDS Long Range Class with Ed Shell

rbird7282 · Jun 27, 2016

MG in MD said:
I turned one too. I think I hit one of the chains...

I think I hit the other chain (or at least dislodged it) and dropped it.
We had one other target that was turned and could only see the edge. It took me 6 or so shots but I finally nailed the edge at 531 yards. That might have been more satisfying than hitting at 1200 yards.

MG in MD · Jun 27, 2016

rbird7282 said:
I think I hit the other chain (or at least dislodged it) and dropped it.
We had one other target that was turned and could only see the edge. It took me 6 or so shots but I finally nailed the edge at 531 yards. That might have been more satisfying than hitting at 1200 yards.

Lol. Glad to have set that up for you! I did try to hit it but was not so dedicated...

SevenT6Vet · Jun 28, 2016

I promised a review of the class last week, but work has had me swamped, so I'm typing up something quick while at work.

The two day class for $200 should be a crime...it's worth double or triple that. You'll leave with a better understanding of how scopes work, proper body position, and how to hold/grip/wrap around your gun. I was definitely lacking on the last two.

I used a basic Model 700 6mm Rem, and got 1,205 yards on the first shot. The spotter made a perfect wind call, and my adjusted elevated calculations based on previous 14 target data was accurate. As long as your equipment is in good shape, and your ammo is truly match ammo, you'll have no problem getting out that far.

Don't hand load mix-matched brass...that is not match ammo

To make the class easier on yourself, I would recommend having a basic understanding of how YOUR scope adjusts. Is it MOA or mil, or a combination of both? If MOA, is it 1/4 or 1/8? This sounds basic, but if you don't understand what these mean, you'll have to take the time to learn them quickly. My Bushnell elite has mil reticle dots and 1/4 MOA windage/elevation, so I had to be clear in my instructions to the spotters as to what to work in.

Also if you hand load, know the brand name of your bullets...or better yet, the G1 and G7 drag coefficients. You'll need to know these in order to come up with a theoretical ballistics chart (which Ed and his crew will do for you if you don't have it already).

Bring a pencil & paper.

I intend to have my wife take a similar class with Ed and I hope to take a next level up class that involves how to read wind.

*edit* It would also be helpful (but not necessary) to know the total MOA adjustment in your scope. If you have a flat base (not 20 moa cant) and only 60 moa total adjustment, you'll be limited on your range. I heavily recommend a 20 moa base. With a 100 yard zero, some of the 308 guys needed over 60 moa of elevation adjustment. Some had to max out elevation, then start using holdover on the reticle. A 60 moa scope on a flat base will only have (approx.) 30 moa of adjustment for elevation.

E.Shell · Jun 28, 2016

Group #6, roster as of June 16, commitments as of today:

1- Ruggedtouch - :thumbsup:

2- Rockn93yj - :thumbsup:

3- jmira - :thumbsup:

4- sureshot - :thumbsup:

5- Hunter1 - NO REPLY

6- Josh - NO REPLY

7- Casey Gilbert - Rockn93yj's son - :thumbsup:

8- sundaeman - :thumbsup:

Ruggedtouch said:
Ruggedtouch said:

I can do July 23-24.

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jmira said:

I'm good with that too.

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Rockn93yj said:

...I can definitely make it the 23rd and 24th.
My son can attend the 23rd and 24th as well.

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sundaeman said:

I can make 23/24 work

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sureshot said:

I can make July 23/24 work

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Excellent. We have a 3/4 quorum, therefore:

Group #6 will be July 23 & 24, 2016. I will provide deposit info ASAP.

I will send a private message to the two who did not respond and if still no reply in a day or so, I will advise Pinecone that we can move two people up from the waiting list to take these potential slots.

zxcvbnm said:
I am most likely able to do July 23/24. Will confirm this weekend

Very good, but you are not on Pinecone's latest (June 16) roster at this time and will have to square that with him before we go any further. Please see post #1 of this thread.

For those who were unable to make it into one of these MDS Special Event sessions this time, I regret to say that I cannot do any more of these heavily discounted classes at this time. We may be able to do something next spring, but I cannot know at this time.

Thanks to all who have participated and thanks especially to those who have helped with these classes and thus helped make it possible to do these the way we have: Marc357, Kari, BillPrudden & BrowningGuy :party29:

Yoshi · Jun 29, 2016

+1 on the level recommendations. I've been shooting with Ed for over 5 years now and not leveling the rifle still causes many of my misses.

jmira · Jun 29, 2016

i don't want to waste money on ammo. I'm bringing my new rifle to a gunsmith tomorrow to properly level the scope/reticle.. I guess it doesn't matter as much at my normal distances but here it can make a huge impact being just a little off.

INMY01TA · Jun 29, 2016

jmira said:
i don't want to waste money on ammo. I'm bringing my new rifle to a gunsmith tomorrow to properly level the scope/reticle.. I guess it doesn't matter as much at my normal distances but here it can make a huge impact being just a little off.

Buy a scope leveling kit and do it yourself. Your not really going back to a gunsmith everytime you change something on your rifle are you? Besides, Ed and the gang there will make sure your rifle is all squared away before you start.

94hokie · Jun 29, 2016

jmira said:
i don't want to waste money on ammo. I'm bringing my new rifle to a gunsmith tomorrow to properly level the scope/reticle.. I guess it doesn't matter as much at my normal distances but here it can make a huge impact being just a little off.

Ed will level it for you the first morning during the gun fitting if it needs it.

jmira · Jun 29, 2016

ok, ill save the scratch and buy more 6.5 creedmoor.

jmira · Jul 5, 2016

I think I'm going to stay in Fredericksburg VA. anyone else staying in the area?

Ruggedtouch · Jul 5, 2016

I'm staying in Gordonsville. A little bit closer.

Wayne1one · Jul 5, 2016

jmira said:
I think I'm going to stay in Fredericksburg VA. anyone else staying in the area?

I stayed in Fredericksburg when I went to the class, I regretted it wished I was a bit closer. GPS wise it's not so bad, but driving those long winding back roads before and after class wasn't fun especially if you get stuck behind a slow driver.

SevenT6Vet · Jul 7, 2016

www.SWFA.com has scope bubble levels half off this week, $19.99. Very wise investment for long range shooting.

SevenT6Vet · Jul 9, 2016

I took the 4th class and was so impressed, I talked my wife into taking a 1 day version of it today. With having shot maybe 20 rounds through a rifle prior to today, she walked away today with the following:

-A great understanding of body position and handling skills.
-A 5 shot group with factory Hornady ammo...0.615" @ 100 yards (last two shots in same hole at top in pic).
-With one 22-250 round left, dialed in elevation, and hit 605 yard target.
-Switched to 6mm Rem, and worked up through several targets to 1,075 yards, with hit on first shot.

And the best part: came home so excited that i think my budget allowance for shooting just doubled

Thanks Ed! Will probably talk to you about pistol class next.

jmira · Jul 20, 2016

where is everyone staying on saturday night?

Tower43 · Jul 20, 2016

I really would love to get into one of these.... if he does more

Rockn93yj · Jul 22, 2016

My 5 shot group at 100 yds. I think I'm ready

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enya60h · Jul 25, 2016

eds class

nice shooting with great group this weekend. left trail of destruction tho. had to shoot last and sit in corner and color. Knocked down three targets in row, but had great time .everyone that missed out on eds class missed a great time, thanks ed,marc,bill ,marcs girlfriend(sorry forgot your name)Thanks for all the help and Great Wind Calls,Will Be Back soon Thanks mark 338 Lapua :lol:

Speed3 · Jul 25, 2016

BTW thanks again Ed for all the help. Last weekend I managed to shoot my best midrange fclass score. I'm still pulling a few outside the 10 ring, and KNOW its still due to my form. As with anything else in life, I need to shoot more than 4 times a year to get better at it but at least now I know what I'm doing wrong so I can quickly correct it. Still chasing that 600 though lol.

sureshot · Jul 25, 2016

6th class

Ed,
can't thank you enough. you got me started on long range! Wonderful class, great instruction and excellent support team. i truly hope you consider offering a few of these next year.

Classmates: great to meet each of you, thanks for your patience and support. If anyone knows a place were we can shoot 1000+ let me know. I am considering joining Peacemakers to have a spot to shoot several times a year - if anyone else is interested we could head out sometime.

Until then keep shooting!

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